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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    A non NCAA player's rights are held for two years. Hence why I said I don't understand how the Kings still have his rights unless a valid contract was signed.

    Players committed to the NCAA have their rights owned until August of their graduating year, which is the huge question mark for Gravel.
    Because players coming out of those three different systems (Europe, NCAA, and CHL) have variances in how rights over a player functions.

    NCAA player after they either declare their intentions to leave early from school or graduate are free and clear UFAs after the August 15th signing deadline of that calendar year. They can have their rights retained until their "Senior Year" and graduation so it's not a set age from what I've seen with 20-year old Freshmen.

    CHL players have two years before they either re-enter the draft if they're younger than 22, or else they become UFAs.

    European players for the most part have their draft rights retained until the age of 22. From 23 to 27 they can sign with a team for a 1-year two-way entry-level contract or wait until they're 28 to sign as a UFA for any price.

    22 is something of a magic number, or general rule of thumb, that applies to drafted players in terms of what age you keep their rights until they re-enter the draft or become free agents. Luckily Nikolai Prokhorkin is only 20 at this point in time.

    This is from a blog by one of the CBA fanatics on Hockey's Future:

    For the most part, a club retains a players exclusive negotiating rights until he's 22 after he's drafted if:




    • He leaves Major Junior hockey before age 20 (if he hangs out for one year, the team has to give him that Bona Fide Offer, otherwise they don't.)
    • He goes to college. He doesn't even have to stay there. The CBA allows for his rights to be extended a bit beyond the fourth year after his drafting, but doesn't allow for a way that a player can re-enter the draft.
    • He plays in a foreign league



    22 is kind of a minimum consideration. The CBA doesn't technically use the age and in some cases, exclusive rights can extend to age 23 or beyond, but when some four year rights to 18-year olds turn into three year rights for 19 year olds, it's just easier to say that the rule of thumb keeps almost all unsigned players ineligible to re-enter the draft or become draft-related free agents before they hit age 22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    Because players coming out of those three different systems (Europe, NCAA, and CHL) have variances in how rights over a player functions.

    NCAA player after they either declare their intentions to leave early from school or graduate are free and clear UFAs after the August 15th signing deadline of that calendar year. They can have their rights retained until their "Senior Year" and graduation so it's not a set age from what I've seen with 20-year old Freshmen.

    CHL players have two years before they either re-enter the draft if they're younger than 22, or else they become UFAs.

    European players for the most part have their draft rights retained until the age of 22. From 23 to 27 they can sign with a team for a 1-year two-way entry-level contract or wait until they're 28 to sign as a UFA for any price.

    22 is something of a magic number, or general rule of thumb, that applies to drafted players in terms of what age you keep their rights until they re-enter the draft or become free agents. Luckily Nikolai Prokhorkin is only 20 at this point in time.

    This is from a blog by one of the CBA fanatics on Hockey's Future:



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    Thanks for the link, that was a very helpful article.

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    The development camp thread seems to be gone, but I thought this was a really neat article by one of the invitees -- Kevin Raine.

    He talks about all the things he did to make sure that the Kings wouldn't forget about him, which seems to have resulted in getting an invite to attend Prospect Camp as well as the main NHL Training Camp.

    "I just went in there with the same mindset I've had the whole time, that hard work pays off," said Raine, the Sudbury Wolves' outgoing captain. "I was the first to win every race, I set the tone in our workouts, I did drills more than I had to -- I did everything that was asked of me and then did a little bit more. I did all the little things and I was there with an open mind, I was there to learn, and I asked questions. I wasn't shy, didn't hide in the back of the group. I was front and centre for everything.

    "I went in there and made sure I was seen, that I wasn't going to be not seen."
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    Nice link, ryan!

    Makes you wonder what was the reason a contract wasn't agreed upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    Nice link, ryan!

    Makes you wonder what was the reason a contract wasn't agreed upon.
    Perhaps they want to see if he is who he says he is, or if he talks a really good game?

    The commitment is admirable and I liked reading about what he had to say, but there's a big difference between doing it for a week, faking it for a week, and proving over a long stretch of time that it's an actual part of your character. Folks under evaluation can pay you a lot of lip service and say what you want to hear and do what you want to see. Not saying it's necessarily the case here, but over time the true character of the individual is eventually going to come to the surface, you know?

    I'm not sure if I explained that quite right, but I don't know how else to word that.

    I'll grant that I could be way off-base and this is just how these kinds of agreements play out -- that it doesn't get finalized until the end of camp.

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