Go Detroit !! Ha ha ..
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Interesting points being made in this thread.
- I, too, am one of those wondering what is going to happen to the popularity of the game given an extended lockout. Birdman - I share the same kind of feeling and I have about 5 or 6 other friends who feel the exact same way. We are all very devoated fans of our teams and we're all kind of struggling with this. I have seen a couple hockey guys (can't remember exactly who but it was of the LeBrun/Friedeman/McKenzie variety) speculate that fans are very annoyed. People understood how bad the system was 8 years ago but now they are having a much harder time understanding the issues. I think a prolonged lockout actually would have a bad result on fans.
- Some people are comparing the baseball system that Fehr instituted in baseball. Good points there. The one point also seeming to being lost in the middle of the Yankees talk, at least I think personally, is how there is really a burgeoning strong middle class there now. Don't forget that baseball, like hockey, is experience record revenues right now and its not exactly the most popular sport anymore. Yes, there are always those really high end top teams that spend, but now you are seeing a lot of teams in that 80-100 million payroll. Thats a big middle class. Those teams all have a few highly paid players on them as well. Yea.. maybe not as level of a playing field considering the Yankees can outspend, but there are a lot of teams in baseball now that have realistic chances every season to win. And a lot of teams that are really bad in baseball are going with the hockey model of almost being bad on purpose to accumulate picks... just like the Kings did. Some of these rebuidling teams (Nats, Reds, Orioles) will all be spending big money to keep their team together. The parallels are very similar to the Kings. I wonder if this is playing a part in anyones thinking.
- Finally.. curious of any of the big sponsors and/or NBC start exerting pressure. NBC has a lot of money invested there. I saw how the NHL is looking at possible record tv deals in Canada in 2 years. NHL IS starting to gain some traction. Good olympics. Winter Classic and 24/7 on HBO were very helpful. Wouldn't mind at all seeing some outside pressure exerted here....
Last edited by JDawg; October 18th, 2012 at 09:36 PM.
that was not a fair nhl offer.
that should have been their starting position.
Looking at the numbers, the only way the NHL is proposing to do this is to shave of 12% of all the players salaries, right now, on every contract. That's the biggest issue the players have.
And I agree with them a bit, the drunked GM's put them in this mess, why should the players bail them out? The Wild shouldn't get a 12% break on those contracts that Weber and Parise signed last summer. I bet you ALL the teams were planning for a 50/50 split, and some of them planned based on their being a reduction, and some didn't. Lombardi's one 750K contract short of being under the new cap figure, carrying one extra contract.
Fehr's reasoning on why bother to negotiate also makes sense. We're not going to do a rollback, so let the drunken sailors spend during the UFA period.
The only way I see the owners getting to that new cap figure for the 14 teams over the new cap figure, without a reduction with Amnesty Rights being provided to the owners for multiple contracts this year, or playing next season under last seasons cap number. The new cap number for 2013/14 becomes the 50/50 number. Hell, do both. Give the owners a 50% buyout of the remainder of any contract with 2 years or less remaining.
This isn't actually as bad as I thought it was. You have to get creative on how to get to 50/50, but damned if it can't be done. It really seems to be only about a $130M Delta.
at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.