The Official CBA Negotiations/Lockout Super Thread

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Originally Posted by Ice24

The Union is strong, these players do not need to earn a paycheck for a couple of years. They have the right to look elsewhere for employment. Stay strong or work in Europe while your family stays here. It will only be for a couple of years.

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Mike Modano says hi.

NHL announces cancellation of 2012-13 regular-season schedule through November 1 - NHL.com - News

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Originally Posted by Bogey

Mike Modano says hi.

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Think of the dogs!

Interesting that the league canceled all games through November 1. A deal can still be made for a full season.

NHL announces cancellation of games through Nov. 1

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Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti

Think of the dogs!

Interesting that the league canceled all games through November 1. A deal can still be made for a full season.

NHL announces cancellation of games through Nov. 1

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That's one way of looking at it. The other way of looking at it is that they cancelled exactly two weeks' worth of games and the November 1 date is just a coincidence.

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Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti

Think of the dogs!

Interesting that the league canceled all games through November 1. A deal can still be made for a full season.

NHL announces cancellation of games through Nov. 1

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I love your optimism, but after hearing Bettman's interview today, the whole season could be lost. We will be lucky to even have any type of season imo right now. No way this will get resolved within the next week or 2.

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Originally Posted by CUP4LA

Good post.

After listening to Fehr's presser I've moved back toward the middle on this one.

Ultimately it is reasonable to gradually move to 50/50. But the players refusal to budge on the length of contract issues is unaccceptable. That part of the system must be altered so we have no more of this cap circumvention bull****.

At the same time, Bettman has to come off of his high horse on insisting that the players take a cut in pay now. it should be about the health of the NHL in the long run.

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According to the reports I have read, issues such as length of contract were not in the proposal from the players. It dealt only with the economic issues of the NHL offer. Link:

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He added that the PA told the owners that it also wants to discuss revenue sharing, individual contracting issues and modifications the league wants to make to HRR, but those subjects didn’t come up in Thursday’s talks. The owners seem insistent on making this complicated negotiation all about one thing: The share of HRR they want the players to accept.

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I'm still not convinced the the NHL loses an entire season, however I'm really starting to think that the Winter Classic is going to end up being opening day.

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Originally Posted by DougW8

According to the reports I have read, issues such as length of contract were not in the proposal from the players. It dealt only with the economic issues of the NHL offer. Link:

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Correct. It wasn't in the proposals because, as Fehr said in his presser, they aren't giving up the rights they bargained for in the last CBA. The players' position is that issues like salary arbitration and length of entry level contracts are not negotiable. Status quo or bust.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...id=DL|NHL|home

Fehr is mad he can't play his strike card just before the playoffs.

I have zero optimism that there will be a season. But on the positive side, think of the money I'll save and all the NHL oldtimers I'll learn about on NHLn. :danc:

But in several quotes, including the one in my post, they have said they were willing to discuss those issues, but the NHL never let them bring them up.