The Official CBA Negotiations/Lockout Super Thread

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Originally Posted by SmytheKing

While true, with 900k in your bank, you can do a lot more to extend that than the guy making 45k for 20 years can.

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true (time-value of money and all that).
And 700K in savings goes a long way in rural Canada. But it's not being set for life.

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Originally Posted by Birdman

I've said the same thing.

And look at what the Owners have just decided to offer up to the players:

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger



A couple of weeks to hammer out a deal now, and suddenly the players are back on the ice before Thanksgiving.

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It's getting to do or die time, and hope to see both sides giving concessions.

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Originally Posted by bigfan3

Perhaps you are right, however the only ones that benefited from it were the players. Think about how many players have a home and a team to play for in those small market teams?

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It also seems like the owners thought they would cash in by having more teams in the league. They gambled and were VERY wrong. Again, both sides have things wrong with them but it seems like you are unwilling to see ANY fault with the owners. I can see idiocy on BOTH sides.

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Originally Posted by Birdman

I've said the same thing.

And look at what the Owners have just decided to offer up to the players:

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger



A couple of weeks to hammer out a deal now, and suddenly the players are back on the ice before Thanksgiving.

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Might as well make that a 50/50 absorption as well. Make both sides take an equal hit on everything so no one could complain. It's about as fair as it's gonna get.

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Originally Posted by aaron

It's getting to do or die time

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It really, really isn't.

I'm surprised the owners give anything extra to the players.

When my employees want more, I fire them.

If you want somebody to give you more, start your own business.

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Originally Posted by boy1der

It also seems like the owners thought they would cash in by having more teams in the league. They gambled and were VERY wrong. Again, both sides have things wrong with them but it seems like you are unwilling to see ANY fault with the owners. I can see idiocy on BOTH sides.

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Perhaps the problem is not the amount but location. The league should grow even more, 32 teams, adding a few more teams in Canada and maybe even moving the Coyotes to Seattle. Canadian tv new contract coming up in 2015 will have to pay a lot more if teams in Quebec and Ontario show up.

I have never said owners are guilt free, but as owners they can make all the mistakes they want and can do whatever they fit necessary to fix them, because they can. Mario Lemieux right now is an owner and I can guarantee you he sees the league and the game in a whole different way than in 94-95.

In 04-05 players cried and moaned, lost a whole season and ended up doing what the owners wanted. Who lost, we did, the fans and as time has shown they did rather well anyways. Here we are again, they will end up doing what the owners want, they will be fine at the end and we will be the victims here, again.

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Originally Posted by santiclaws

It really, really isn't.

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Ok, I was wrong. The 2004/2005 season was cancelled in late February.

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Originally Posted by boy1der:2597816

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Originally Posted by Birdman

I've said the same thing.

And look at what the Owners have just decided to offer up to the players:

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger



A couple of weeks to hammer out a deal now, and suddenly the players are back on the ice before Thanksgiving.

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Might as well make that a 50/50 absorption as well. Make both sides take an equal hit on everything so no one could complain. It's about as fair as it's gonna get.

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Handzus Crisco, I suggested the same thing after the PA's counters were rejected. Had the PA just negotiated off of the NHL's offer, they could have asked for that, but nooooo.

Interesting. Not getting my hopes up. But interesting.

Dreger: NHL makes significant move on 'make whole' provision