That one provision is what had me on the players side. If the owners take full responsibility for it, then good for them. Hopefully this ends soon. We need hockey in our house. We need to cheer.
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That one provision is what had me on the players side. If the owners take full responsibility for it, then good for them. Hopefully this ends soon. We need hockey in our house. We need to cheer.
It is concessions like this, when the NHLPA doesn't have any leverage, that remind us this is all a puppet show and that this lockout could have been avoided entirely.
I am so sick of getting my hopes up, but I see the owners latest "make whole" offer as a good sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by rinkrat
Pains me to say this, but my quite level is near max. If there is not movement this weekend I will not be buying any tickets or merchandise for at least one season.
I wonder if the NHLPA or some of the owners on the inside (Toronto and Detroit maybe) were the ones who put pressure on Bettman for this concession. This is all speculation because I have no one on the inside or any sources...but if Bettman was determined to keep his stance no matter what, and there were rumblings of some owners really wanting to play...maybe this has more to do with that. Meanwhile...profit sharing needs to be addressed as well. It has nothing to do with the players really, but in order for this league to run better, the wealth needs to be spread a little, and/or some teams moved or folded.
On another note...IMO Phoenix isn't a terrible place for a team. There are far worse in the league. It's no Toronto of course, but still, not a bad city. Moving the Coyotes to Glendale...now THAT was stupid and THAT is what is killing the franchise.
(See map below) A, on the left is where they are now, 22 miles NW of B, where they were in the middle of the total population. If the NHL thought that a city that was finally warming to the idea of an NHL franchise was going to just jump at the chance to drive 22 extra miles to see them...come on man. It would be like moving the Ducks arena to Corona or Laguna Hills. Even a simpleton like me could see that this would be suicide. I know some of you drive a TON further than that, but then the size of L.A. and it's surrounding metropolitan area absolutely dwarfs the Phoenix area. People out here are used to driving long distances to get someplace, and there are many transplants out here who grew up on hockey. Hell, the Kings have been around long enough that people here have grown up on hockey. I know quite a few people in Phoenix that used to regularly attend games before they moved. Now, they RARELY go because of the drive turned into 40 miles instead of 20.
"For the first time since Oct. 18, NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly and players' association special counsel Steve Fehr agreed to meet at a secret location Saturday afternoon. The two have been talking by phone during the week and found enough common ground to get together face-to-face"Quote:
Originally Posted by rinkrat
See, and the two turds that are holding everything up aren't even the ones talking...like two spoiled brats. Fire them both and let their underlings who are actually doing the work get this thing done!
Looks like the "make whole" leak is nothing to get too excited about.Quote:
James Mirtle @mirtle
In a memo to players, Don Fehr says the PA did not receive a new proposal from the league but has merely been in informal talks with them.
This is the argument that I was going to make to a certain extent. When I talk about risk and sacrifice for professional athletes I am talking about the time that was put into becoming a world class athlete; not the time after they have made it already. It always bothers me when people complain about athletes making too much money because I know they don't understand the risks the athletes took to get to where they are. Sure its all fine and dandy for the Kopitars and Douhgtys, hell even the career 4th liners/healthy scratches. That's about 5% of the players that play major junior/college hockey though. When a player is drafted those odds go up to just under 20% of actually having a career in the NHL. This means that over 80% of guys that were drafted and threw away the prime years in their lives to be starting a normal career job are getting a late start on life, often without a college degree. That's just the guys that were drafted; that's not including the career AHLers that never quite broke through to the NHL.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfan3
So yeah, I believe that the NHL players are compensated fairly for the time and effort that was put in to make it through the grind that is major juniors/the AHL for most of them.
Just how tough is it to reach the NHL? - NHL - ESPN
taxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfan3
automatic 10% return? I think you are better than most analysts right now.
Nobody forces them to do it. They do it because they have a dream, and most are more than happy to put in the work. And just like someone who dreams of being an :actor, Olympic champion, musician, astronaut, writer, artist, pro surfer, ballerina, sports writer, photographer, radio talk show host, etc. etc.etc ........many are called but few are chosen.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCVKingsFan27
