Thread: The Official CBA Negotiations/Lockout Super Thread

The NHL is a different sort of entertainment business. This is a competition with a goal to win it all. So, yes, the owners do what they can to satisfy what the fans want, so they offer more than the competition. These are not "outrageous". Owners are doing their job. The CBA allowed them to circumvent the CAP. Etc. etc., it's time the players suck it up and admit that they are the ones constantly getting raises because of all this, and that maybe, just maybe there's also a time for the owners to fix what is wrong with the CBA and ensure they won't lose money. Don't you think?

Stop crying about owners giving "ridiculous" amounts of money. They (those who can) are doing what the fans want. Go on capgeek and see for yourself how much CAP room is there available league-wide. A lot. And that's not because of "ridiculous" contracts, it's because many owners don't want to go (further) into the red.

What you want is a league where owners don't "overpay". Not possible.

It's not about players being spoiled, it's about how professional sports work.

Originally Posted by Bollocks

The NHL is a different sort of entertainment business. This is a competition with a goal to win it all. So, yes, the owners do what they can to satisfy what the fans want, so they offer more than the competition. These are not "outrageous". Owners are doing their job. The CBA allowed them to circumvent the CAP. Etc. etc., it's time the players suck it up and admit that they are the ones constantly getting raises because of all this, and that maybe, just maybe there's also a time for the owners to fix what is wrong with the CBA and ensure they won't lose money. Don't you think?

Stop crying about owners giving "ridiculous" amounts of money. They (those who can) are doing what the fans want. Go on capgeek and see for yourself how much CAP room is there available league-wide. A lot. And that's not because of "ridiculous" contracts, it's because many owners don't want to go (further) into the red.

What you want is a league where owners don't "overpay". Not possible.

It's not about players being spoiled, it's about how professional sports work.

If the owners were doing what the "fans want", we would be watching hockey right now.

Originally Posted by ilovela

LA will get a NFL team, before the NHL and NHLPA get their **** together

Don't worry, the Rams are on their way back!

Originally Posted by Bollocks

Are you bashing owners AGAIN?

Originally Posted by aragorn

It would appear we have a broken record with his posts.

yes, I am pretty much supporting the players camp. Both of you are touting the owners positions. So what?

Originally Posted by aaron

yes, I am pretty much supporting the players camp. Both of you are touting the owners positions. So what?

We have better arguments than "the owners won the negotiations 8 years ago, it's time the players win too" and "the owners are foolish to give them money" and "you can't take away what's been given to the players" and "the owners are dependent on the players".

Originally Posted by aragorn

The nhlpa simply isn't bargaining. This don't look too good and I think the NHL is really getting pissed. Ultimatum coming???

If you're attending the meetings, please give us the fully skinny. Otherwise, I don't see how your statement has any cred.

let break down the major concessions each side has made

players: 7% of total revenues (> 1,000,000,000 dollars)
owners: we'll pay you what we already owed you

Scumbag Fehr will keep playing games and stalling in an effort to pick up every crumb he can before the next set of games are cancelled.

If they can't get it done before then, players will miss out on more meals.

Originally Posted by boy1der

Don't worry, the Rams are on their way back!

that's what I'm waiting for!! I would love to see the Rams play at Farmers Field...