Thread: The Official CBA Negotiations/Lockout Super Thread

Caps goalie Michal Neuvirth just said for our TV NOVA Sport: "I agree 100% with Hammer. This lockout is not about majority of players, i think. It is about several superstars with big contracts.“

Originally Posted by Bogey

...and the truth slowly starts to filter out.

Originally Posted by AngelEyes

Huh. You define "truth" as the opinions of four guys out of 700-plus. Nice bubble.

Why Bogey can define that as truth is because the "superstars with big contracts" are in fact the minority in the NHL. It is their contracts that have financially ruined the NHL. If all players got paid the amount Neuvy did than there would be no legitimate reason for a lockout.

By the way, the goalies should be getting the ridiculous contracts. Not because they're my favorite players, but because...well it is because they are my favorite players. haha

Originally Posted by santiclaws

Hamrlik is looking only at his wallet. The reality of the situation is that unless the players refuse to simply cave every single time there's a lockout, there will be a lockout every single time. It is already the NHL's preferred method of "negotiating."Hamrlik is looking at a single CBA. Cole is not. He clearly realizes that he's personally going to lose. The easy road for the NHLPA is to simply cave. They are playing the long game and making it painful for the NHL to have a lockout. They are trying to get the NHL to get away from the lockout as "Plan A."

It is not painful for the NHL to have a lockout. If it was, something would have happened by now.

Originally Posted by Ice24

It is not painful for the NHL to have a lockout. If it was, something would have happened by now.

Toronto, NYR, and Montreal are losing out, unlike the 27 other teams.

Originally Posted by aaron

As for the Fehr haters, there's a good article going around.
If you're going to war, you need a wartime consiglieri.
NHL lockout: Owners shouldn’t underestimate the Fehr factor - The Washington Post

Who is that who is a hockey fan that is not a Fehr hater?


This is cute:

He educates, he shapes, but he doesn’t decide. The players do.

LOL!!!
They're DOOMED!!!

Hamrlik elaborating on his remarks, plus replies to Cole.

"I've been in the league for 20 years and faced three lockouts," Hamrlik told TSN's That's Hockey on Wednesday. "There's only 14 other players in the league that are facing their third career lockout. I believe I've earned the right to say what I think."

The 38-year-old told Daily Sport this week that he's concerned with the amount of money that is being lost by the players as the lockout continues and pushed for Fehr to get a deal done or leave so that someone else will.

"Someone thinks I'm selfish - I might be," Hamrlik told TSN. "But it's selfish to play hockey. I still want to play with the Capitals or at least have the chance to win and go as far as I can. I think time is against us and we need to find a solution. I think that it's a fight between two groups that have too much pride. We need to find an agreement - I still support Fehr, but we as players we need to push him a little bit more and get the best deal possible."

Hamrlik's remarks drew immediate criticism from Montreal Canadiens forward Erik Cole, who has questioned his stance during this labour standoff.

"Erik Cole has his opinion like everyone else," said Hamrlik. "I'm a little bit disappointed in what he said. What I do know is he has three years left on his contract and I'm sure he got a nice signing bonus this summer, so I don't think he didn't have to sacrifice anything. So good for him, good agent."

Hamrlik, who has played 19 NHL seasons with six different teams, was hoping the players would have learned a 'lesson from 2004' when they refused an early offer from the league but then 'came to an even worse deal' to end the last lockout.

"I've talked to the guys in the locker room when we skate in Montreal, I've been in a meeting in Barcelona this summer where we were meeting with Fehr," he expalined. "From my experience at the meeting in Barcelona, they said we have everything set up. I have a proposal for the owners, we should be okay, blah blah, blah...but nothing happened. I'm just disappointed - I know it's a really tough business, it's not just me losing money. Everybody's losing money - the sooner we figure it out, the better for everybody."

Hamrlik expands on CBA remarks; responds to Cole

Originally Posted by nki

Hamrlik elaborating on his remarks, plus replies to Cole.



Hamrlik expands on CBA remarks; responds to Cole

it is obvious who is looking out for whom. I do feel bad for the older players because they want to earn as much as they can with limited time left and the majority of the players are probably not thinking this will happen to them. Guess what it happens.

I think it's hilarious the players' "major move" towards the owners STILL did not include a truly linked system. They clearly don't get that the NHL will not accept anything that is not 100% linked.

Originally Posted by KingsFan19

If they get a deal done...I'd go to the banner raising game and zero more for a shortened season. Onward to next season.

Nah... I'll go to multiple games as always... usually a mini plan. I won't buy merchandise or food though.

Originally Posted by keyTOarson:2602602

I think it's hilarious the players' "major move" towards the owners STILL did not include a truly linked system. They clearly don't get that the NHL will not accept anything that is not 100% linked.

Because they want the owners to pay for the lockout.

Ludicrous!

It's not enough that they get paid outrageously well when they do play, they also want to get paid for games they haven't even played. GDMFn tarts.

It's just a game to the PA.
They are out of touch with reality.
Dumbasses all of them, Hamrlik, Neuvirth, & any like them excluded.