Thread: The Official CBA Negotiations/Lockout Super Thread

Originally Posted by CUP4LA

Well now they may take a run at settling this thing without Bettman and Fehr. If nothing else, the mediation process made the parties recognize that the personality conflict between the two is getting in the way.

I love that plan by the owners. Let's put 29 trained business, men who do this kind of thing for a living, in a room to work out a deal with a bunch of athletes highly skilled at putting a rubber disk in the back of a net. No offense to the players, as I'm sure there are several who can hold their own, but I see that as being a pretty uneven playing field.

Originally Posted by AllenA07

I love that plan by the owners. Let's put 29 trained business, men who do this kind of thing for a living, in a room to work out a deal with a bunch of athletes highly skilled at putting a rubber disk in the back of a net. No offense to the players, as I'm sure there are several who can hold their own, but I see that as being a pretty uneven playing field.

you're assuming that all owners want the same thing.

Originally Posted by AllenA07

I love that plan by the owners. Let's put 29 trained business, men who do this kind of thing for a living, in a room to work out a deal with a bunch of athletes highly skilled at putting a rubber disk in the back of a net. No offense to the players, as I'm sure there are several who can hold their own, but I see that as being a pretty uneven playing field.

Originally Posted by Kubrick

you're assuming that all owners want the same thing.

Exactly. Not all the owners are in lock-step with the hawks.

Originally Posted by AllenA07

I love that plan by the owners. Let's put 29 trained business, men who do this kind of thing for a living, in a room to work out a deal with a bunch of athletes highly skilled at putting a rubber disk in the back of a net. No offense to the players, as I'm sure there are several who can hold their own, but I see that as being a pretty uneven playing field.

If it was no lawyers for either side you might have more of a point. Just because Fehr wouldn't be in the room doesn't mean the players wouldn't have any sort of legal representation.

Originally Posted by ilovela

would it suprise anyone if NHL is locked out till 2014+?

Not really. Half the owners are losing money every game that gets played, but they can make up for it with gains in other owned businesses and tax loss write offs. The best players don't care because they can make relatively good money overseas. It's the vast majority of mid to low level players that could loosen the log jam because they're in the toilet as far as earnings...they will start getting more and more squirrely as the days tick by. I'm actually surprised the owners just don't cancel the negotiations so they can use their cash to make some better investments while the months go by the wayside for the players.

Some good points were made above. I was under the assumption that this was a no lawyers move on the part of the NHL. Seperate all the secondary people and let the owners and players go at things directly with nobody else there. If there continues to be a level of representation in the room I think that does help even things out.

The idea of not all the owners wanting the same thing I think is an interesting question. What is it the majority of the owners (or players for that matter ) want? We have all heard the wants of the Bruins and the Wilds owners but that is a small number out of the group. I have to imagine that there are several in the room that would much rather end this and get back to playing then drag things out any further.

Originally Posted by empire

"It seems bleak for having any sort of season," Hurricanes defenceman Joe Corvo told the Raleigh News & Observer. "It feels like (2004-05) again. It seems like we're getting nowhere."

it seems? Joe hit the alarm clock.

Originally Posted by AllenA07

Some good points were made above. I was under the assumption that this was a no lawyers move on the part of the NHL. Seperate all the secondary people and let the owners and players go at things directly with nobody else there. If there continues to be a level of representation in the room I think that does help even things out.

The idea of not all the owners wanting the same thing I think is an interesting question. What is it the majority of the owners (or players for that matter ) want? We have all heard the wants of the Bruins and the Wilds owners but that is a small number out of the group. I have to imagine that there are several in the room that would much rather end this and get back to playing then drag things out any further.

Trouble is too big a group makes for simply a lot of noise. Maybe 6-8 owners... 2 large market, 2-4 mid market, and 2 small market owners. Then have 9-12 players... 3 1st/2nd liners, 3-6 3rd liners, and 3 4th liners/bench sitters. Just like owners, all players are not created equal in what they could lose. Allow the players some minimal representation... perhaps an agent or two and a lawyer. Maybe a meeting eyeball to eyeball between the actual check writers and the actual check cashers will help the sides gain some perspective.

Whatever......just get it done before you lose total loss of the fans...cause that's were your money comes from.

After game one for the Kings to see the banner, I'm done.