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Thread: The Official CBA Negotiations/Lockout Super Thread

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    Here's the key: figure out how much a second lockout in less than a decade (where the first one killed an entire season) will cost everyone, then pull heads our of asses and get this done!!!
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    The world's going to end in december anyway, so we die knowing the Kings will be the final Stanley Cup champs.

    I'm ok with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pg1067 View Post
    Here's the key: figure out how much a second lockout in less than a decade (where the first one killed an entire season) will cost everyone, then pull heads our of asses and get this done!!!
    Gary Bettman and David Stern should go and rub some coco butter on each other.
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read on the hockey news website that they would agree to start the season and still try and figure everything out. To good to be true I guess.

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    The writing has been on the wall for a lockout for awhile.

    1) NHLPA hiring Donald Fehr and looking like they were getting their crap together as a union. The NHLPA shooting down re-alignment to make it an issue in CBA negotiations was a perfect example.

    2) Contentious labor disputes in the NBA and NFL where owners were able to get a serious % of revenues back from the players. You had to know NHL teams were going to try for the same.

    3) NHL teams having serious issues with the way teams have pushed loopholes in the current CBA with the extremely long contracts and front loaded deals.

    4) The salary cap rising to a point that isn't sustainable (without some meaningful revenue sharing) for quite a few markets. There are quite a few teams that are never going to be able to spend near $70 mil and turn a profit. Unless the Kings go deep in the playoffs every year, they're one of those teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kings4188 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read on the hockey news website that they would agree to start the season and still try and figure everything out. To good to be true I guess.
    Yeah the NHLPA and the Owners had said something like that. But you know how it is in business. They'll say anything at first to show a good face. Once the greed sets in the story changes. Gary Bettman loves to play hardball and so does Fehr. It's going to be a showdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kings4188 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read on the hockey news website that they would agree to start the season and still try and figure everything out. To good to be true I guess.
    I think that was a suggestion by the union. But there's no way the owners would agree to that unless they could get an agreement from the NHLPA that they wouldn't strike. Otherwise if you're the NHLPA you just wait until the end of March/first week in April, when the players have almost all of their paychecks for this season and you go out on strike right before the playoffs.

    A lockout puts the pressure on the players to negotiate because they don't want to go a full year without getting paid. The owners don't care because their expenses drop because they don't have to pay the players. A strike at the end of the season puts the pressure on the owners because they will have paid out a full season's worth of salaries and playoff revenue is where most teams make their money. An agreement to play under the current CBA takes some of the pressure off both sides. What happens if you play all season and playoffs and still don't have a deal in place? Then you're in the same boat next summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daxx View Post
    The world's going to end in december anyway, so we die knowing the Kings will be the final Stanley Cup champs.

    I'm ok with that.
    Nope. The Chicago Cubs have to win the World Series in order for the world to end. Since the Cubs aren't even making the playoffs this season, the end of the world will have to wait another year...but probably more like a couple hundred of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LOSTcauseZERO View Post
    ...will have to wait another year...
    The de facto colloquialism for any conversation with a Cubs fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LOSTcauseZERO View Post
    Nope. The Chicago Cubs have to win the World Series in order for the world to end. Since the Cubs aren't even making the playoffs this season, the end of the world will have to wait another year...but probably more like a couple hundred of years.
    Ah... They're so much like the Canucks in this statement that it isn't funny... All right...not to THEM...

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