Thread: The Official CBA Negotiations/Lockout Super Thread

Originally Posted by Ice24

Now I understand why Doughty held out before signing his 7 million a year contract. He is sitting pretty right about now.

Why is he sitting pretty? He won't get paid this year and he's not getting a fat signing bonus like some players (Parise $10 mil, Suter $10 mil, B. Richards $10 mil, Weber $13 mil) payable even if there's a lockout.

Originally Posted by Bogey

You're gonne love not getting that nice, fat salary, Zach, as if you really need any more (if he's smart, he'd be set for life with the salary he's already made).

Zach's $10 million signing bonus I'm sure will make it easier for him to sleep during this lockout.

Couple other things from this thread....

1) Crosby in theory could pay through the nose for insurance on his NHL contract so if he were injured playing in the KHL, he would be covered salary wise. The problem for him is that any sort of insurance policy would probably not cover a concussion related injury. He'd also probably want to take out insurance on this year's contract plus his 12 year $104 mil new contract that kicks in in 2013. That's not going to be cheap to insure. To me, the idea of a career ending injury in the KHL this year and the fact the Penguins could suspend him for getting hurt overseas makes it too risky for him to play, even if he does get insurance. He'd still lose out on all the endorsement income he could potentially make over his career. I could just see some KHL scrubs totally trying to target Crosby.

2) As fans, we might get indignant over lockouts or strikes but the fans are never going to be a priority for either side everyone needs to accept it. Owners know exactly what they can charge that people will still pay and that's what they're going to charge. You might see things like concession/merchandise specials when the game comes back, but there's never going to be a long term roll back on prices on tickets, food, or merchandise. Owners care about their profits and players are looking out for themselves.

Here's a couple of tweets from everyone's favorite, Paul Bissonnette, in case they were missed.

Fans. The players understand your frustration. But at the end of the day we are fighting for our futures, not yours. That's the reality.

And I would take a pay cut if owners would lower ticket prices for all the loyal fans like you. But they won't.

https://twitter.com/BizNasty2point0

I call BS on the 2nd one. No person in their right mind would voluntarily take a reduction in their salary as a player if it meant lower ticket prices. Most of these guys are not set up to have a post-playing career that pays a lucrative salary. They're not going to lower their income, especially a 4th line goon that isn't paid much compared to other players in the league, for the fans.

3) Saw this on Puck Daddy....the lockout drinking game. A shot for every time you hear a player say something along like, "We just want to play."

Originally Posted by Whiskey&Coke

Both sides better get something done today. I woke up with a hard on for hockey this morning

I don't think that'll impress anyone.

Originally Posted by SuperCalo2000

I just don't get how the NHL can brag about record revenue and then cry poor.

Yeah thank goodness air fuel, luggage, medical, equipment, hotels, etc... haven't gone up to cut into those revenues.

Originally Posted by salami

I, for one hope the season is cancelled. That would put the LA Kings as the only team to hold the Stanley Cup for 2 years with only 6 Stanley Cup Finals games played. Tampa Bay used to be the champ with 7....has-beens. The Kings are the NEW POWER of the CBA Lockout NHL bitches!!!

Why would you think that? With the lawsuits settled after the last lost season, and the fact the NHL does not own the Stanley Cup, it could likely be given to the next best hockey champion. I think any North American team hockey organization can put in a claim to it if no NHL season takes place. There was talk of giving it to the gals last time, and this time it could very likely happen. I think it would be cool... The Fredericksburg Fire Hydrants, 2013 Stanley Cup Champions, inscribed on the cup.

I'm wondering if we'll start hearing about union desertification like we did in Football and Basketball? The players may very well want to take their chances in court if it looks like they'll miss a whole season. I'm also guessing the NHL owners will be ready if it happens.

Originally Posted by aragorn

I'm wondering if we'll start hearing about union desertification like we did in Football and Basketball? The players may very well want to take their chances in court if it looks like they'll miss a whole season. I'm also guessing the NHL owners will be ready if it happens.

I would be absolutely shocked if that happened. To me, the NHLPA looks and seems extremely unified.

Originally Posted by Dana

Here's a couple of tweets from everyone's favorite, Paul Bissonnette, in case they were missed.





https://twitter.com/BizNasty2point0

I call BS on the 2nd one. No person in their right mind would voluntarily take a reduction in their salary as a player if it meant lower ticket prices. Most of these guys are not set up to have a post-playing career that pays a lucrative salary. They're not going to lower their income, especially a 4th line goon that isn't paid much compared to other players in the league, for the fans.

On the first one, he does realize that the fans pay for his well-being and future, right? No fans = no well-being/future to fight for.

Originally Posted by LOSTcauseZERO

I would be absolutely shocked if that happened. To me, the NHLPA looks and seems extremely unified.

To me they look more like they are hung over, waiting for a group drug test.

Originally Posted by LOSTcauseZERO

I would be absolutely shocked if that happened. To me, the NHLPA looks and seems extremely unified.

Has nothing to do with being united. Has everything to do with opening up more court options to them. If they don't decertify, they're forced to negotiate by the rules of the CBA. If they do, they can file antitrust lawsuits as individuals against the league. I might not have all my ducks in a row, but I believe that's the gist of it.