Thread: The Official CBA Negotiations/Lockout Super Thread

And the clock counts down the inevitable...

Originally Posted by DMAN3474

The players dont want to any less money than the $1.87 billion what ever number, so fine let them have it. If the owners think league revenue is going to keep going up why dont they just say ok, that is your hard cap number for the next CBA. Based on the proposed NHL growth numbers this is what the % will be over the next 5 years if they kept the same $1.87 billion number.

This year the NHL made $3.28 billion (shown below as $3,280) and the 57% of HRR makes it just about $1,870
11/12 - $3,280 this year its 57% and it is about $1,870

12/13 - $3,512.9 it would be about 53% this year
13/14 - $3,762.3 50%
14/15 - $4,029.4 46%
15/16 - $4,315.5 43%
16/17 - $4,621.9 40%

Then the PA would then come back and say F you to a hard cap number for the HRR. Then the owners should come back and say $1,870 will be your minimum. And give the players the option to take that or 47% (I came up with 47% by averaging the % over the next 5 years that would make them about $1,870 and rounding up) which ever is the larger number. By 16/17 the $1,870 number will go up to $2,172.3. That is respectable growth from years 2014-17 with out any change in salary for the next 2 seasons. Over the next two seasons the league would make about $715 million more dollars to help the league figure out what to do with the teams that are losing money (aka where to relocate them to)

The PA will then come back and say F you again, why are the players doing all the hard work and only getting 47%. They should then come back with asking for the two year freeze of the $1.87 billion, then go to 50%.

The league will say no, and come back with the two year $1.87 bill freeze, then stat at 47% of HRR and every year for the next three years after that increase a percent up to 50%. This will help the league with any relocation costs for the teams that are losing money (the 47, 48 & 49% years) then lock that 50% number in for the two years after that. Then we have a 7 year CBA and everyone gets their money, and we get to go to FF to watch hockey in two weeks.

The league should also freeze the cap number for the next two years, this will help if the owners are really losing money like some articles suggest. Then increase it SLOWLY the five years after that (if everyone is still making money)

Thats my plan. If I am way off on anything, sorry.

Too bad it seems like the leadership on both sides lack the creativity to come up with something like this. It would address issues for both sides and would IMO be perceived as a compromise, so nobody looks like they lost....which seems like their biggest concern at this point

Originally Posted by DMAN3474

The players dont want to any less money than the $1.87 billion what ever number, so fine let them have it. If the owners think league revenue is going to keep going up why dont they just say ok, that is your hard cap number for the next CBA. Based on the proposed NHL growth numbers this is what the % will be over the next 5 years if they kept the same $1.87 billion number.

This year the NHL made $3.28 billion (shown below as $3,280) and the 57% of HRR makes it just about $1,870
11/12 - $3,280 this year its 57% and it is about $1,870

12/13 - $3,512.9 it would be about 53% this year
13/14 - $3,762.3 50%
14/15 - $4,029.4 46%
15/16 - $4,315.5 43%
16/17 - $4,621.9 40%

Then the PA would then come back and say F you to a hard cap number for the HRR. Then the owners should come back and say $1,870 will be your minimum. And give the players the option to take that or 47% (I came up with 47% by averaging the % over the next 5 years that would make them about $1,870 and rounding up) which ever is the larger number. By 16/17 the $1,870 number will go up to $2,172.3. That is respectable growth from years 2014-17 with out any change in salary for the next 2 seasons. Over the next two seasons the league would make about $715 million more dollars to help the league figure out what to do with the teams that are losing money (aka where to relocate them to)

The PA will then come back and say F you again, why are the players doing all the hard work and only getting 47%. They should then come back with asking for the two year freeze of the $1.87 billion, then go to 50%.

The league will say no, and come back with the two year $1.87 bill freeze, then stat at 47% of HRR and every year for the next three years after that increase a percent up to 50%. This will help the league with any relocation costs for the teams that are losing money (the 47, 48 & 49% years) then lock that 50% number in for the two years after that. Then we have a 7 year CBA and everyone gets their money, and we get to go to FF to watch hockey in two weeks.

The league should also freeze the cap number for the next two years, this will help if the owners are really losing money like some articles suggest. Then increase it SLOWLY the five years after that (if everyone is still making money)

Thats my plan. If I am way off on anything, sorry.

That's right along the lines of what I was thinking. Don't cut salaries now, but give the players less of a cut of the growth until they get to a 50/50 split, then keep it at 50%. Easy.

Too bad it'll be December before they figure this out.

Show your support of not having a NHL lockout tonight at midnight at Toyotoa Sports Center where the LA Kings practice. Wear your jersey, bring a candle, flowers and any mementos you want to leave on the steps.

https://www.facebook.com/events/471599106208363/

how about I sacrifice an old wallet on the steps of TSC?

Haha, is this for real??

absolutely

I've got a funny feeling that the NHL is going to be quick to realize that people who are willing to go to a candlelight vigil against a potential lockout, will be the first fans back in the seats. As much as I'm not going to be the person to do it (and my guess is people on this site are in the same boat I am) the real way to seek revenge on the NHL and teach them how devistating this is to the sport is to stop watching and stop giving them your money. Why has MLB gone so long without a stirke? Because baseball has a whole lot of fairweather fans. After the strike a whole ton of them didn't come back and MLB felt some pain. Thankfully for baseball you had guys like Ripkin, Sosa, and Mcgwire lessen the blow and bring back the casual fan. The NHL is lacking in large part the casual fan, the fan who isn't going to come back if a lockout occures. I'll be honest, the lockout could last 10 years and I'll still be back like a moron spending my money when the puck drops.

I'm not saying this is a bad idea, I just don't think it will do anything because to be honest the sport doesn't care about the hardcore fans who hold candlelight vigils. The sport cares about the casual fan who they may risk losing, and unfortunately for hockey there are far fewer of those then in other sports.

Originally Posted by Pucker25

Do the owners not see the hypocrisy of handing out all these big money contracts in the days leading up to a lockout where they are crying about losing money?

That's why I'm saying the lockout is solely the owners' faults.