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    I don't want to see the Kings move guys like Zykov. Making moves that deplete the depth of the young players is a recipe for being a crap team down the road.
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    what high picks do the kings even have left?
    Regehr was the '14 and '15 2nd rounders.
    JJ was '13 first.

    kings have their '14 first still
    edm's '14 3rd round pick for Scrivens
    got toronto's '15 2nd round pick for bernier

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    I would also,if Vanek agrees to sign a 4-5 year/cap friendly contract per permission of the Islanders for DL to be able to talk to Vanek and his agent before hand.
    heard Vanek wants to sign in Minnesota next year. (disclaimer: my source was a no name from twitter)
    I've heard it's because his wife is from Minnesota.

    But that would be like saying Ben Scrivens wants to sign in LA as UFA because his wife's from the area.

    Players typically go to the team that is in the top half of the league and makes the best offer, no always dollars, but term and security.

    How will west coast life effect family. Look what it did Ryan Smyth, there's others that have no desire to play in the pacific time zone, they want the easier travel. All of that plays into it, in the end, this a job, some players want to go anywhere to win, some (very few) it's just a job and about money, and security, and if they happen to win along the way, great. In the end these players are still human beings like the rest of us.

    Think about this...if you were offered double your current salary or maybe even triple, to up root your fanily and move them all to...say Winnipeg, what impact does that have on your family, your kids Ect. It's not always an easy choice, even if it might be the best choice, or the best chance to win
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyesk8r View Post
    I've heard it's because his wife is from Minnesota.

    But that would be like saying Ben Scrivens wants to sign in LA as UFA because his wife's from the area.

    Players typically go to the team that is in the top half of the league and makes the best offer, no always dollars, but term and security.

    How will west coast life effect family. Look what it did Ryan Smyth, there's others that have no desire to play in the pacific time zone, they want the easier travel. All of that plays into it, in the end, this a job, some players want to go anywhere to win, some (very few) it's just a job and about money, and security, and if they happen to win along the way, great. In the end these players are still human beings like the rest of us.

    Think about this...if you were offered double your current salary or maybe even triple, to up root your fanily and move them all to...say Winnipeg, what impact does that have on your family, your kids Ect. It's not always an easy choice, even if it might be the best choice, or the best chance to win
    F what my kids think if they're paying me 3x more
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    Well Vanek was a Gopher for 2 yrs so he probably took a liking to Minny and if his wife is from there also, why not sign with the Wild?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 008 View Post
    Well Vanek was a Gopher for 2 yrs so he probably took a liking to Minny and if his wife is from there also, why not sign with the Wild?
    People who get out of Minnesota generally don't go back voluntarily. It's a hard place to live. I speak from experience.
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    reports are Vanek turned down a 5-year contract extension from NYI. looks like he wants to go to UFA. bad news for NYI as that will likely drop the price on him.
    still wouldn't trade what it will take to get him as a rental. someone will give up a 1st and a top prospect and young player. (think toffoli, clifford and 1st).

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    I can't see any possible situation where Vanek becomes a King with it costing at a minimum Tiffoli and a 1st. That's just the starting point for the conversation, I think the Kings end up sending more then that back.

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    Not for a rental like Vanek. My guess he ends up in SJ for a first and prospect - not much more. The Isles will never get full value but they had to know this going in.

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    The top rental guy on the market almost always gets a first and two young players. The key is the two young players and if they pan out.
    The Kings don't have a lot of young talent but what they do have is some high end. There just isn't a lot of depth there yet. If NYI would take something like 1st, Clifford and a kid other than Pearson, Vey or Toffoli I think it's worth the gamble. But with limited high end prospects, I don't think DL can trade one of them for someone who may only play 25 games with the organization.

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