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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett77 View Post
    That’s great but if the package is a current roster player then you’re looking at Carter for starters, then that opens up another hole.

    Prospects, young players, picks??? Going to have to be 2-4 guys. Now you’re looking at cap issues as you have shed minimal cap and picked up easily 8-10 mil in 2 top players.

    IMO, getting a top winger or defenseman will cost and today the Kings cannot afford that cost.
    if the Kings dealt Clifford, Muzzin and pick and a prospect to NYI for MacDonald and Grabner the net difference in salary would be about $2M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretzky99 View Post
    if the Kings dealt Clifford, Muzzin and pick and a prospect to NYI for MacDonald and Grabner the net difference in salary would be about $2M.
    You guys are really anxious to include Muzzin in a deal like this. I think Dean would rather it be Martinez, we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGS17 View Post
    You guys are really anxious to include Muzzin in a deal like this. I think Dean would rather it be Martinez, we'll see.
    If Muzzin wasn't getting the heavy minutes and opposing match-ups that come when you're partnered with Doughty then he wouldn't be left naked and exposed with all his imperfections on display as he is now. When you're on the first defense pairing it's usually the top gunners for the other team opposing you so when a mistake is made it's magnified and usually deposited behind Quick.

    The optics are bad in such cases and noticeable to a casual observer. It doesn't necessarily mean he's irredeemable, but I think it does say that he's not a top pairing guy (at the moment, or if ever) and needs to be slotted accordingly by Sutter so as not to make him look so bad.

    Muzzin, for example, does a pretty good job of getting his wrist shots through -- does a better job of that on occasions than Doughty who liked to take a big wind-up that gives defenders enough time to slide into the shooting lanes. And he has a surprising knack of being able to keep the puck in the offensive zone during attempted clears.

    I still worry about his on-ice decision making on pinches, stepping up for hits, passing or not passing, and positioning. I'll admit I can't say for certain if that's bad hockey sense or what's to be expected of a still inexperienced offensive defenseman, however. Either way it still makes me want to pull my hair in frustration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGS17 View Post
    You guys are really anxious to include Muzzin in a deal like this. I think Dean would rather it be Martinez, we'll see.
    i'm not anxious to deal him, but if that's what it takes, i would be ok with it. i'm sure he is much more interesting to teams because of his size.
    he's a much better fit to be the puck mover with a SAH guy than to be paired with Doughty. with that being the case, i wouldn't mind seeing him in a deal to bring back what the Kings need than to play 12 minutes a game on the third pair.
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    RED ALERT RED ALERT!

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    One word to describe Linden Vey being pulled from the AHL All Star Game - bizarre. Haven't heard a reason as to why. Will pass on if I do.
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    This just may be the NyQuil talking, but I wouldn't be surprised if MR gets dealt. Just my drugged up opinion, but homie don't look happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovela View Post
    RED ALERT RED ALERT!

    Andy ‏@AndyTonge1 26s
    One word to describe Linden Vey being pulled from the AHL All Star Game - bizarre. Haven't heard a reason as to why. Will pass on if I do.
    i hope it has more to do with Stoll being moved than Vey being moved. i think the kid has a big future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gretzky99 View Post
    trading Brown to NYI could be interesting. they definitely could afford him and it would be a nice splash for them. but i still think they would rather try and go after Vanek. but if you trade Brown for MacDonald and Grabner, you still have a hole on the wing.

    i doubt anyone takes Brown at this point. [/U]why would they when they can go after Callahan for the same price and he's actually producing?
    Wait, you do realize that Ryan Callahan 9 goals and 12 assists in 39 games right? Let's not act like the guys is killing it or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRC1221 View Post
    Wait, you do realize that Ryan Callahan 9 goals and 12 assists in 39 games right? Let's not act like the guys is killing it or anything.
    no, he's not killing it by any stretch. but 21 in 39 is way ahead of Brown's pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretzky99 View Post
    i hope it has more to do with Stoll being moved than Vey being moved. i think the kid has a big future.
    why scratched?

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