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    Default Some guys top 50 players

    Here's some nice summer fodder for you

    The Third Annual Top 50 NHL Players | Jeff Angus

    43. Jeff Carter (36)

    One of the best scorers in hockey has discovered there is more to hockey than just the offensive zone under Darryl Sutter in Los Angeles. Carter has always been an impactful player, but his stretches of strong play in Philadelphia were inter-spliced with periods of indifference. Carter may not eclipse his career-best mark of 46 goals again but he is a lock for 25-35 goals each season. His ability to jump back and forth from wing and center also boosts his value. He’s at his offensive best on the right side where he has more room to get his lethal wrist shot off, but he is a better overall player at center. He proved that once again during the recent postseason run playing in between rookies Tanner Pearson and Tyler Toffoli.
    35. Jonathan Quick (37)

    Quick once again stepped up his level of play when it mattered the most, and he now has a second Stanley Cup ring to add to his collection for it. His cap hit is reasonable ($5.8 million per season), although the term of his deal is not (he is signed through the 2022-23 season). Quick has been criticized by advanced stats proponents who point to his average play over a large sample size, while his supporters focus on his stellar big game moments. So how good is Quick? Is he one of the top three or four goaltenders in the league? Or is he a top 10 guy who can turn it up when he needs to?
    7. Anze Kopitar (8)

    Kopitar is one of the best players in hockey. He has single-handedly put Slovenia on the map for many non-European hockey fans, and at $6.8 million per season for two more years, he is a huge bargain to the Kings, too. He is a physical force on the ice, bullying opposing centers and defensemen with his size, range, and strength on the puck. Kopitar is an elite defensive forward and an elite offensive forward, too. He is incredibly durable and elevates his play in the postseason (as evidenced by his two Stanley up rings). He is one of hockey’s best possession forwards, he makes all of his teammates better, and he plays against the toughest competition among all Kings players.

    He is going to be awfully expensive to extend next summer – expect his new contract to resemble the recent Kane/Toews extensions. But dominant and durable two-way centers don’t grow on trees.

    “You try and describe guys [as] ‘shut-down D’ or ‘goal scorer’ or ‘grinder.’ I’ve said this before about Kopy, he’s just a hockey player,” Kings captain Dustin Brown said. “If the best play’s a pass, it’s a pass, if the best play’s a shot, it’s a shot. He’s just a complete hockey player. He doesn’t get enough credit in my opinion partly probably because of the market we’re in, his background. If he was a Canadian and played in New York, [there would] probably be more people talking about him.”

    6. Drew Doughty (11)

    At the age of 24, Doughty already has two Stanley Cups and two Olympic gold medals to his name. He has hit the double-digit goal total in four of his six NHL seasons, but anything he does at the offensive end of the rink is just a bonus for the Kings. Doughty is arguably the game’s top two-way defender – he is physical and can skate the puck out of problem areas, and he can (and does) log extremely tough minutes in all situations. He was a finalist for the Norris Trophy at the age of 20 and will have a few of them by the time his career wraps up. His contract is a bargain ($7 million per season through 2018-19) and will become even more of one as the cap continues to increase each season.

    Former Kings teammate Willie Mitchell refers to Doughty’s phenomenal ability to move “sideways” on the ice – sometimes resembling a more physical Nicklas Lidstrom or Sergei Zubov. Doughty skates like he was born with a pair of them already on his feet.
    Personally I think he got the order of most important kings largely right although you could sell me on Carter over Quick if you bought me enough beer.

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    I don't get why everyone calls Crosby the best player in the world. When did he last perform at a top level when it mattered? Sure, he racks up points in the regular season, he'll put up 100+ every year, but the guy hasn't done chit since 2009 in the playoffs, and didn't do anything for Canada in Sochi either. That gold was won thanks to Doughty. The rest of the list is pretty okay

    I would honestly take Kopitar or Toews over Crosby any day. Those two perform when it matters.
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    Doughty is getting close to taking away the defensemen part out of the phrase best defensemen on the planet. If there was an all-player draft I find it hard to believe he wouldn't be the first player taken.

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    My top 3? Toews, Doughty, Crosby.

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    this guy clearly does not know what he is talking about. Justin Williams is not on this list, and he put Shea Weber above Duncan Keith.

    (agree with a lot of them....but Crosby is not #1 , and Seth Jones should not be on this list.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssa42 View Post
    this guy clearly does not know what he is talking about. Justin Williams is not on this list, and he put Shea Weber above Duncan Keith.

    (agree with a lot of them....but Crosby is not #1 , and Seth Jones should not be on this list.)
    Just curious as to your number 1? As a qualifier this guy did attempt to take contracts into account. Based on that alone I'm pretty sure there's folks that could make a decent argument for Doughty. Certainly easier to make it against Toews with that monster contract he's coming into.

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    More strokage

    The referenced list is behind a paywall so if mods don't like it let me know and i'll take it down

    That Capitals’ Alex Ovechkin is a franchise player and here’s why - The Washington Post

    Alex Ovechkin has won three MVP awards, been named the league’s best player by his peers three times and led the league in goals four times — including each of the past two years — so it was surprising that not one of the “dozen NHL executives, coaches and players” polled by ESPN’s Craig Custance cast a vote for Ovechkin when asked in a July 30 story: If you were starting a franchise from scratch and could choose from any current player in the NHL, who would be your top choice?

    Here is how the voting panel “made up of four current team executives (assistant GM or GM), one former GM, four current head coaches, one respected assistant coach and a player from each conference” cast their ballots. It is important to note that the instructions were “to pick the five best players to build a franchise around,” and not take into account any other factors (team, contract, etc.). Votes were “assigned point values for each vote to come up with an overall ranking.”

    Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks
    Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins
    Drew Doughty, Los Angeles Kings
    Ryan Getzlaf, Anaheim Ducks
    Shea Weber, Nashville Predators
    Nathan MacKinnon, Colorado Avalanche
    Anze Kopitar, Los Angeles Kings
    John Tavares, New York Islanders
    Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning
    Carey Price, Montreal Canadiens
    Tuukka Rask, Boston Bruins
    PK Subban, Montreal Canadiens
    Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins

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    Quote Originally Posted by FabrizioHC View Post
    I don't get why everyone calls Crosby the best player in the world. When did he last perform at a top level when it mattered? Sure, he racks up points in the regular season, he'll put up 100+ every year, but the guy hasn't done chit since 2009 in the playoffs, and didn't do anything for Canada in Sochi either. That gold was won thanks to Doughty. The rest of the list is pretty okay

    I would honestly take Kopitar or Toews over Crosby any day. Those two perform when it matters.
    The guy has dealt with a boatload of injuries over the past few seasons, and still wipes the floor with pretty much everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    Just curious as to your number 1? As a qualifier this guy did attempt to take contracts into account. Based on that alone I'm pretty sure there's folks that could make a decent argument for Doughty. Certainly easier to make it against Toews with that monster contract he's coming into.
    just realized I never answered. Well, as we all know, personally I would put Justin Williams as my #1 , but in "real life" I would go with Toews over Crosby. Maybe I just haven't seen Crosby play enough. The few times I have seen him in person he was good, but not amazing. Toews scares me every game, not even just in person.

    And I would have Duncan Keith in my top 5, although his age works against him in this particular formula, so Weber wins using this "formula"

    Hard for me to judge Kings players against the rest of the league...still stuck in the early 2000's mindset (OK, every year before 2012!) with my Kings fandom. But that Kopitar guy is pretty good, and Doughty seems to do pretty well,, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo Blando View Post
    My top 3? Toews, Doughty, Crosby.
    Agreed 100%. Haven't decided yet if I'd agree more with this ranking as 1 2 3 or 3 2 1.

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