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    It was only a year ago that Nonis and his cronies were poo pooing advanced stats, so this hire represents a huge change in attitude for the Leafs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RagBone View Post
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    Personally, I hate hockey stats other than goals and assist and hits..

    It is not baseball and so much harder to determine. Oh come on! Corsi and Fenwick? Give me a break

    Even giveaways and takeaways are dumb because during a board battle there are a lot of giveaways and take aways so how can that even be determine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeFinallyWon! View Post
    Personally, I hate hockey stats other than goals and assist and hits..

    It is not baseball and so much harder to determine. Oh come on! Corsi and Fenwick? Give me a break

    Even giveaways and takeaways are dumb because during a board battle there are a lot of giveaways and take aways so how can that even be determine?
    You're not going extreme enough. Goals and assists and hits are stupid. It's all about wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeFinallyWon! View Post
    Personally, I hate hockey stats other than goals and assist and hits..

    It is not baseball and so much harder to determine. Oh come on! Corsi and Fenwick? Give me a break

    Even giveaways and takeaways are dumb because during a board battle there are a lot of giveaways and take aways so how can that even be determine?
    yeah duh...bro....nicece firstest post!!!

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    I hate baseball stats much beyond on base percentage, batting avg, era and whip.

    Still hate bunting though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeFinallyWon! View Post
    Personally, I hate hockey stats other than goals and assist and hits..
    I love them until they make my brain hurt, then I defer to aaron.

    Then I spend countless hours trying to explain to him that slow footed dmen with big strapping bodies are needed, while he tells me they suck because their Corsi/Fenwick stats are crap so they need to be bought out or traded for a puck bag.

    The point of my comment is that regardless of what your eyes tell you, the stats have merit. It isn't a coincidence that we've won 2 Stanley Cups while being towards the top in puck possession. If we're playing in the other end and have the puck, the other team can't score.

    Someone also alluded to me that they have their "Own Proprietary System" in place for a lot of this stuff, and I'll leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    Someone also alluded to me that they have their "Own Proprietary System" in place for a lot of this stuff, and I'll leave it at that.
    This.
    Teams have been breaking down video for 20 years. Now they keep count.
    And a SportVu type automated system like the NBA uses isn't far off.
    Want a clear path into sports management? Learn the minutiae of the salary cap or how to analyze and apply data.

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