December 18th, 2013, 06:26 PM #21
So, you're just proving the point that trade proposal threads suck.
Originally Posted by Ranma
December 18th, 2013, 06:46 PM #22
It's even better when the same bad proposal ends up in TWO threads. Bonus points for consistency!
Originally Posted by mitchrock
December 18th, 2013, 07:01 PM #23
Nooooooooo! Get him out of here!
Originally Posted by Vargsmal
December 18th, 2013, 07:03 PM #24
Anyone else want to give this dude a hug? He finally did it, after all.
Originally Posted by Vargsmal
December 18th, 2013, 07:12 PM #25
December 18th, 2013, 07:17 PM #26
Smolinski was traded for Gleason who was traded for Johnson who was traded for Carter.
December 18th, 2013, 07:32 PM #27
To paraphrase a wise person, don't marry yourself to the 3 puck movers/3 stay at homers setup.
Jake Muzzin is the heir apparent to Mitchell, and he's right on schedule.
That doesn't mean he's in the mold of Mitchell, but with Doughty coming into his own, not only do you not need an anchor on him, but you actually need somebody who can keep up (which hey, Mitchell used to be that).
For all his criticisms, Darryl has not taken Muzzin off Doughty's 9 yet.
Then you have Martinez, who obviously belongs in the lineup, on the left side, with his normal partner. He'll be back upstairs for a good chunk of this season but IMO, the 6 that are in right now are the 6 that should be regulars next season. Replace Regehr the following offseason. If somebody craps out before that time frame, then look for a Gleason band-aid. Yeah, you're going for the Cup this year. I get that. But if you give away a guy who could help get you there for the next 5 seasons, then that's just dumb.
December 18th, 2013, 07:56 PM #28
no on trading Muzzin. doesn't make sense. he is playing top 2 minutes for cheap and he is young. you don't trade those guys.
Originally Posted by eyesk8r
i don't see the point in Tim Gleason. we have similar players already in Mitchell, Regehr and Greene. and if i'm looking for an upgrade for next season, i'm looking for someone a little younger that can play top-4 minutes.
my personal opinion is the Kings are going to need at least 1 and likely 2 new d-men starting next year. i think Mitchell is done after this year and it would surprise me if Greene is re-signed. he has been hurt a lot recently and i think the argument could be made that he is starting to break down given the type of game he plays. i don't see him being a quality d-man into his mid to late 30s.
for this season, i think the Kings are set on defense unless there is a major injury. if i'm looking for anything it's a top-6 LW.
as far as assets that i would be willing to move, it starts with Scrivens and Lewis but definitely not Toffoli and i'd only consider Pearson or Vey if a high quality player is coming back with term left on his deal.
if the Islanders were to put Vanek out there, i'd give up Scrivens and a 1st. it gives the Islanders back the 1st they gave up to get him and gives Scrivens 20-30 games in New York to see if he likes it there and maybe they can re-sign him.
December 18th, 2013, 08:35 PM #29
The 1st they could get from us will be *very* different from the 1st they gave up to get him.
Originally Posted by gretzky99
December 18th, 2013, 08:47 PM #30
that is true - but anyone who is going to go after Vanek at this point is likely going to be in the back half of the first round. it was a risk for them to go after Vanek and if they are smart they will cut their losses.
Originally Posted by brasspucks