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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Girl View Post
    -He messages the players to be ready for training camp as early as next Friday.
    -He then spreads the word to membership about discussions regarding a 60 game season.
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishMonger View Post
    She ran off to New York with another woman.

    There was an afro involved.

    If that Afro was on a Midget, I'm running to the Airport right now!
    at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.

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    The really big reason for this lockout is the owners and managers horrible management of their hockey teams. They even went around the biggest cause of the previous lockout by circumventing the salary cap. And why is bettman's go to negotiating a lockout? A lockout should be the absolutely last tactic, not the very first. Sorry people, bettman's side are the only one's to blame for the actual lockout itself. With that being said, both sides are lying out of their rear ends and acting like 2 year olds. The players need to step up and tell the other players with the stupid money contracts to shut the ---- up and throw fehr out of the building while they're at it. The players with the stupid money contracts, because the owners agreed to pay that stupid money, shouldn't have a lot of say in these negotiations because they're not "sacrificing" a damn thing. They're screwing over the rest of their "brethren", and that "brethren" happens to be the majority of the union. As for bettman, he needs to man the ---- up and tell the owners and GMs to quit being stupid and start managing with some common sense. The players are the ones who are going to have to pay for the owners and GM's stupidity. It's unfortunate, but they sooner they realize it, the sooner these shenanigans are over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron View Post
    fehr's results speak for themselves.
    Results like losing his clients over $500M in salary?

    I cannot argue with you.

    Fehr's results speak for themselves.

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    This summer I just couldn't imagine we would lose another season to a lockout. Now that we are where we are, approaching the middle of December, it seems like a probability.

    Last season was an awesome season for us Kings fans, obviously. After 23 years as a STH we finally made it to the promised land! Every year they raise ticket prices, but this season Luc was jacking them WAY up. (We have front rows upstairs which have been reclassified as "premium seats" after 12 years.). I was very unhappy, but renewed anyway. When it looked like there would be fewer games, the silver lining was that I'd be saving some of that price increase.

    Now that there may be no season at all, I'm thinking what do I want to do next year? Will they have the nerve to raise prices again? I miss hockey, but I have found other things to do with my time and money. Winning the cup felt like closure to me after all these years. An appropriate time to step back. I desparately want to see the kings raise the banner, but do i need to keep 4 full season tickets? Im rambling, but i cant help wondering what other STHs are thinking and how a year lost might affect ticket sales next year. They took a ton of deposits after winning the cup. I wonder how many will carry over to next season after a year of no hockey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCKingsFan31 View Post
    It boggles my mind how pro-union you (aaron) are. I'm fine with people taking a side, but from all of your posts you seem to think the players, and more hilariously Donald Fehr, are infallible and completely in the right on everything.
    LOL... you're just now noticing that? I was starting to assume he was a player rep. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaderFan View Post
    This summer I just couldn't imagine we would lose another season to a lockout. Now that we are where we are, approaching the middle of December, it seems like a probability.

    Last season was an awesome season for us Kings fans, obviously. After 23 years as a STH we finally made it to the promised land! Every year they raise ticket prices, but this season Luc was jacking them WAY up. (We have front rows upstairs which have been reclassified as "premium seats" after 12 years.). I was very unhappy, but renewed anyway. When it looked like there would be fewer games, the silver lining was that I'd be saving some of that price increase.

    Now that there may be no season at all, I'm thinking what do I want to do next year? Will they have the nerve to raise prices again? I miss hockey, but I have found other things to do with my time and money. Winning the cup felt like closure to me after all these years. An appropriate time to step back. I desparately want to see the kings raise the banner, but do i need to keep 4 full season tickets? Im rambling, but i cant help wondering what other STHs are thinking and how a year lost might affect ticket sales next year. They took a ton of deposits after winning the cup. I wonder how many will carry over to next season after a year of no hockey?
    I have the same first row seats in 311, price went from $2000 to over $3000 for 2 seats, seriously considering dumping them as the months pass by due to complete apathy of the whole mess.

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    You know what HNL stands for - No Hockey League. I think we will see more games canceled soon and there is a strong possibility that this season will be wiped out. As Kings fan, it sad to see current situation after we won SC, i hoped that we have another shot this year. But if season will be wiped out due to lock out i don't know if we will see Penner, Richardson or Gagne next season (whenever we will have one). If we won't see hockey until next October owners and players will loose a lot of money, and we will definitely see tickets prices go up. Unfortunately momentum is already lost after record year and it will take some time to get fans to the same level of excitement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOSTcauseZERO View Post
    The really big reason for this lockout is the owners and managers horrible management of their hockey teams. They even went around the biggest cause of the previous lockout by circumventing the salary cap. And why is bettman's go to negotiating a lockout? A lockout should be the absolutely last tactic, not the very first. Sorry people, bettman's side are the only one's to blame for the actual lockout itself. With that being said, both sides are lying out of their rear ends and acting like 2 year olds. The players need to step up and tell the other players with the stupid money contracts to shut the ---- up and throw fehr out of the building while they're at it. The players with the stupid money contracts, because the owners agreed to pay that stupid money, shouldn't have a lot of say in these negotiations because they're not "sacrificing" a damn thing. They're screwing over the rest of their "brethren", and that "brethren" happens to be the majority of the union. As for bettman, he needs to man the ---- up and tell the owners and GMs to quit being stupid and start managing with some common sense. The players are the ones who are going to have to pay for the owners and GM's stupidity. It's unfortunate, but they sooner they realize it, the sooner these shenanigans are over.
    First, there are not 30 owners or teams throwing stupid contracts out there. Are those contracts and terms stupid? YES but not all do

    How do you protect the league, as a whole, from those irresponsible owners and Gm's? you create a system that closes loopholes so you don't end up with a league of 15 teams. You are actually protecting the owners against themselves.

    First, the players come out crying that they are not giving anything because they gave too much the last time and that they got screwed in the last CBA. Yet, they want to keep playing under that same CBA. They know and the owners know that they won big on that last CBA. Average salaries almost double within that span but they speak so we, the fans, feel sorry for them.

    Second, the players show up with a proposal literally telling the multibillionaires how they should run a business. Not very clever, the second you did that anything good in that proposal went straight to the garbage with the rest.

    Third, They dont want a 10 year CBA now so we, the fans can watch these ****ers play with our emotions on a daily basis in 5 more years, again?

    If I was an owner of any one of the teams loosing money I would say, cancel the season and let these idiots feel some real pain. And mind you, a big chunk of the teams are loosing money.

    If these teams were to be traded in the stock market and I had bought some shares of any team I sure wouldn't want a bunch of athletes running the day to day of the business. Sure, the owners make mistakes and do, some of them, stupid things but look at the overall picture and you will realize the business of Ice Hockey is doing way better than 7, 10, 20 years ago. Whatever mechanisms they have been implementing along the way have worked and now you must trust that what they need in order to keep growing and making the sport better will work, once again, in the future and, as always, will keep on paying players handsomely.

    And the last thing, stop blaming Bettman (not you in particular) he has the task of taking care of the sport as well as keeping his boss' happy. Fehr only has to worry about the players, not the sport. I doubt he is even a fan of the sport and to me that is a BIG difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    LOL... you're just now noticing that? I was starting to assume he was a player rep. :-)
    Pretty sure that 'Hockey Girl' had innie parts not outie parts.
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