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Thread: We are BACK!!!! NHL AND NHLPA REACH DEAL ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron View Post
    I mean have you read any tsn comments? Somewhere between sad and hilarious how anti-player they are. Now LGK isn't as bad, but it's still kind of shocking. Every single post before mine itt, related to the latest round of talks, was how badly fehr and the players screwed up. And how right the owners were. It really made me angry.
    I'm not letting myself get angry or frustrated by this lockout. If it ends and there's a season, great. If it doesn't, I have more time to spend on other things. I don't begrudge the players what they make and I don't begrudge them the right to negotiate what they think is a fair deal. I understand they have a unique skill set where people are willing to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to watch them use that skill set.

    That said, neither the owners or players are sympathetic figures. The owners aren't, they've got hundreds of millions to billions of dollars. The players, they're not sympathetic figures either and that is why you don't see many pro player comments. In the grand scheme of things, they get payed quite a bit of money to play a game for a living. They're not saving lives, treating patients, fighting fires, teaching students, building infrastructure, and so on. They provide entertainment. I understand society values entertainers more than doctors, police, firefighters, and teachers. Entertainment is great and society needs something to distract itself from the other crap going on. I understand that they do take risks to do what they do. They pass up on education because they're hoping for the rewards that come with playing in the NHL. They risk injuries, but their medical care is taken care of. They could suffer a long term injury that impacts their future, but they're being paid quite well and have access to the best medical care to deal with those issues. Yes, they do miss things like the birth of children, kids birthdays, other family events, however that's something they knew would happen when they decided they wanted to become a pro athlete.

    I guess I never have understood why anyone should be pro-player or pro-owner. I'm not going to worry about someone like how poor Brad Richards is going to survive a 7% paycut this season. I'm too worried about how I'm going to pay my already thousands of dollars in medical bills before I have another surgery. There are too many good people who can't find a job or if they do find one they're underemployed, or they don't have good healthcare benefits. Billionaires and millionaires arguing over how to divide a $3 billion pie is ridiculous.

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    I am slowly going insane. I need hockey NOW.
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    Maybe I should just unsubscribe and let everyone do their thing. Whatever.
    Just trying to impart a point of view, and maybe drop a little knowledge. Like with my statistical based postings, I'm hoping to raise the level of thinking. (including my own)
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    Dana,
    what got me angry isn't the lockout itself. It's the lack of perspective. And lack of critical thought.
    It so much reminds me of political demagoguery among hard core partisans. Like when spending cuts are actually just cuts in the growth rate of spending. Semantic bull****.

    Personally, I've been prepared for a half season starting in January. Just hoping the sides would actually negotiate sooner. And I know who I blame for the lack of compromise.
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    At this point there is nobody to blame but Mitchrock.
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    Effing Mitchrock

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron View Post
    fehr's results speak for themselves.
    Both his and Bettman's.


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    Have none of you heard of MLB?

    Good lord.
    Ask the baseball players union if they like fehr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron View Post
    Have none of you heard of MLB?

    Good lord.
    Ask the baseball players union if they like fehr.
    The MLB?
    WTF is that?

    ... & you're only as good as your last performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawley19 View Post
    I've had my "podium" out several times and no deal was done.
    Did you tap on your mike and say "testing, testing" too?

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