We are BACK!!!! NHL AND NHLPA REACH DEAL ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

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Originally Posted by AngelEyes

And this ^ is potentially complete bollocks. <heh> Unless all the league's teams open their books to independent auditors, no one can be sure that the salary structure of the last CBA was skewed to the players or not. Why is it so hard for some of you to consider that the owners are simply crying poor to try and increase their profit margins?

In my mind, part of the reason that these billionaire owners are as wealthy as they are because a) they're ruthless and b) they're (to some varying degree) dishonest. No one accumulates that kind of wealth without stepping on others and creating a business environment that favors them. Yes, that's capitalism, and yes, that's the world in which we live. But fortunately we also live in a world where voices that are united in a common cause can still affect policy.

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You really think players and their union have no access whatsoever to the books...really? you think they are playing with their future based on a "we'll play it by ear" philosophy? we, the fans, may not get to see the details but believe me the players and Fehr have a pretty good idea of the numbers. Also you got media, agents etc that would have to willingly participate in covering the truth, and that truth according to you, would be that they do as they wish, they are above the law etc? come on!

By the way, many may agree with some of your comments regarding the business practices of owners and how they may or may not conduct business however, dishonest? so all poor people are honest? what a load of crap, ridiculous assumption and belief.

Today is the day! I can feel it!

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Originally Posted by C. Marshall

I'm looking forward to when the season is cancelled so I can get on with my life....

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Yup....a final cancellation means there is absolutely no reason to get a night job.

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Originally Posted by aaron

Today is the day! I can feel it!

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Getting married? ;)

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Originally Posted by bigfan3

You really think players and their union have no access whatsoever to the books...really? you think they are playing with their future based on a "we'll play it by ear" philosophy? we, the fans, may not get to see the details but believe me the players and Fehr have a pretty good idea of the numbers. Also you got media, agents etc that would have to willingly participate in covering the truth, and that truth according to you, would be that they do as they wish, they are above the law etc? come on!

By the way, many may agree with some of your comments regarding the business practices of owners and how they may or may not conduct business however, dishonest? so all poor people are honest? what a load of crap, ridiculous assumption and belief.

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You made that assumption, not I.

Perhaps my use of the word "dishonest" isn't exactly correct. How about "unethical" or "immoral"?

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Originally Posted by Hkyfmly

I just got done talking to my friend who works for the Kings and he told me.

"The rumor is Bettman sent a Text to Fehr when do you want to meet? Fehr
wrote back it is none of your business. That is when he blew up on him"

Now that would really suck if that is the reason a deal did not get done.

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Sorry, but that is just too silly to believe (and I don't mean the skepticism expressed by someone that Bettman and Fehr would use a common form of personal communication to schedule a meeting). So let's clarify here. First of all, in the last sentence of the quote, is Bettman "he" or is Bettman "him"? In other words, who "blew up on" whom? Second, is your friend seriously suggesting that, in response to a completely benign text from Bettman about when Fehr wants to meet, Fehr would respond that it is none of Bettman's business when Fehr wants to meet? I know none of us like these two clowns and called both of them just about every name in the book, but they're not literally idiots or in third grade or anything like that. If Fehr were going to respond with something like that -- and I seriously doubt he did, logic dictates that there would have been something else that precipitated it. And while we're at it, why is your friend spreading silly rumors like this?

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Originally Posted by Royal_Roader

Right now, I'm trying to take a small business and make something out of it. One day, I even hope to get to pay myself. Of all the causes I can lend my voice to, making sure that hockey players get multi-year, multi-million dollar contracts is way down on the list.

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OT. I wish you success in your venture. I tried that 30 years ago . . . and failed. Big eye-opener, that's for sure. Good lessons for the rest of my life, but at the time, it was certainly a struggle, sometimes a nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Hipcheck

Yup....a final cancellation means there is absolutely no reason to get a night job.

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It means I can go back to stripping!!!

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Originally Posted by Toothless

It means I can go back to stripping!!!

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I wish I could say you'd be the only toothless stripper I know of, but, alas, I've been to truck stops on the 15...

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Originally Posted by AngelEyes

You made that assumption, not I.

Perhaps my use of the word "dishonest" isn't exactly correct. How about "unethical" or "immoral"?

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So you are saying, the only way to become rich is to be unethical or immoral, right?