We are BACK!!!! NHL AND NHLPA REACH DEAL ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

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Originally Posted by aragorn

So now we move towards phase two of this debacle....the disclaimer/de-certifying/lawsuits phase. And this particular phase could last a couple weeks to a couple years mixed up with two country's laws. Regardless of which side is more intransigent, I hope each and every player fully understands they may not play for a couple years (many never again) and that it's not sugar coated to them. This is a big roll of the crap dice.

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lol you are so bad.
are you in some way related to an owner?

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Originally Posted by FishMonger

Anyone know how long it usually takes for that to get settled/decided?

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I think it's been pretty well settled that the lockout is legal. (It was in the nfl, nba lockouts)

The question is whether a disclaim and subsequent decert is a true breakup of the union or a bargaining move. nhl trying to classify it as a ploy (which it pretty much is until the season is lost). As the PA hasn't actually disclaimed, and only been authorized to by the players, its all theoretical at this point.

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Originally Posted by aaron

lol you are so bad.
are you in some way related to an owner?

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??? I guess I don't understand. Just really stating the obvious. No ownership ties for me... just my annual 10 game mini-plan and a Kings fan since the late 70's.

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Originally Posted by aragorn

??? I guess I don't understand. Just really stating the obvious. No ownership ties for me... just my annual 10 game mini-plan and a Kings fan since the late 70's.

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Your pro-owners slant is unmatched. except maybe by bollocks.

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Originally Posted by aaron

Your pro-owners slant is unmatched. except clearly by my pro-players' slant.

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I went ahead and fixed that for you. It was wrong before.

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Originally Posted by FishMonger

Anyone know how long it usually takes for that to get settled/decided?

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It is impossible to tell anything from what has been reported. In a typical class-action complaint, it might take a year or more just to determine if the suit can proceed a a class action. I have no idea if the NHL is asking for an intermediate, and quick, determination. I assume so, but I have not seen anything which details what the NHL is asking for. There are no surprises here, this is following the exact same script as the NBA lockout last season.

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Originally Posted by aaron

Your pro-owners slant is unmatched. except maybe by bollocks.

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Usually my owners slant posts are in response to the incredible love affair you garner for Fehr and the players. I'd seen a lot of posts on tsn, espn and here and your bias is more on par to player and agent tweets than what most fans seem to feel.

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Originally Posted by FishMonger:2607503

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Originally Posted by aaron

Your pro-owners slant is unmatched. except clearly by my pro-players' slant.

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I went ahead and fixed that for you. It was wrong before.

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Thank you.

No need for me to point out which side I support.

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Originally Posted by aragorn

Usually my owners slant posts are in response to the incredible love affair you garner for Fehr and the players. I'd seen a lot of posts on tsn, espn and here and your bias is more on par to player and agent tweets than what most fans seem to feel.

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Hey, at least I own up to it. And I think I'm right in most cases.

Now own up to your bias.

For research, here are all you posts itt:
http://letsgokings.com/search.php?searchid=493835

and in part 1:
http://letsgokings.com/search.php?searchid=493837

enjoy!

I have no problem saying I'm in favor of the owners side of things. I think the owners should get at least 52/48 and I think their original "make whole" was fair enough. I feel the owners could be sharing even more than their 200mil offer though, especially at 52/48%. The Toronto teachers union would have a big no on that though. I also feel that 5 years (7 years if same team) and 5% deviation might be too little. I'd personally go with 6/8 years and 10% deviation. That allows for a little bit more wiggle room for teams that are close to the cap. 10 year CBA is better for the fans so I'm all for that. And if they could put in a no raise in seat prices clause for the Kings during the entire cba I'd be all over that too. So there's my pro-owner stance. I could post all your owner attacks to put mine in context but everyone here has already been inundated with enough of your player-love posts to want to see them again.