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    Quote Originally Posted by santiclaws View Post
    This is complete PR bull. "Cancelling" games? What games? The old 82-game schedule is as dead as a dodo bird and has been for months. Even if they dropped the puck tonight, the entire old schedule would still have to be scrapped and a brand new one drawn up. So what the hell are they cancelling exactly?
    Games from Jan 1- Jan 14. Prior to this, there was at least hope to start the year off immediately with hockey. Such a hope has now been killed. Regardless of how things are scheduled, this is several more games we will be without this season... if there is one.

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    The one thing I'm happy about (wrong word, but I'll stick with it) is that we know they are only going to dangle a season in front of us for a few more weeks. Then they can finally put thing to rest.

    I love hockey and the Kings, and I'll be back game one when the league starts back up, but I would be lying if I didn't say that I hope a lot of people do end up walking away. In 1994 Baseball learned its lesson and there has been CBA peace since. The NHL/NHLPA learned nothing from the lost season in 04 and I worry will not from this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenA07 View Post
    The one thing I'm happy about (wrong word, but I'll stick with it) is that we know they are only going to dangle a season in front of us for a few more weeks. Then they can finally put thing to rest.

    I love hockey and the Kings, and I'll be back game one when the league starts back up, but I would be lying if I didn't say that I hope a lot of people do end up walking away. In 1994 Baseball learned its lesson and there has been CBA peace since. The NHL/NHLPA learned nothing from the lost season in 04 and I worry will not from this season.
    I think one of the problems (one of many) is that they were taught people would come back quickly, and revenue could quickly grow, even after a lockout. I don't see it happening this time, but it didn't take long for record revenue for the NHL after the last one. Maybe they see that and think it'll happen again, so they're not so worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishMonger View Post
    I think one of the problems (one of many) is that they were taught people would come back quickly, and revenue could quickly grow, even after a lockout. I don't see it happening this time, but it didn't take long for record revenue for the NHL after the last one. Maybe they see that and think it'll happen again, so they're not so worried.
    It would be very foolish to discount the very serious potential repercussions of an unprecedented second lost season in a very short time.There's a lot of smart people over at the NHL, and I doubt that they haven't considered it very seriously. From what I've read, at least some of the owners are genuinely worried about the damage of a second lost season and some supposedly don't think all 30 franchises would survive. They're all playing some very high stakes poker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santiclaws View Post
    It would be very foolish to discount the very serious potential repercussions of an unprecedented second lost season in a very short time.There's a lot of smart people over at the NHL, and I doubt that they haven't considered it very seriously. From what I've read, at least some of the owners are genuinely worried about the damage of a second lost season and some supposedly don't think all 30 franchises would survive. They're all playing some very high stakes poker.
    I'm not saying there aren't people on either side that are smart and get it.

    But they certainly aren't the vocal ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santiclaws View Post
    This is complete PR bull. "Cancelling" games? What games? The old 82-game schedule is as dead as a dodo bird and has been for months. Even if they dropped the puck tonight, the entire old schedule would still have to be scrapped and a brand new one drawn up. So what the hell are they cancelling exactly?
    Quote for truth
    Even if they signed tomorrow. how long would it take to get everyone together and run a training camp. At least 15 day, and more like 20. take out the Christmas holiday, and they already brushing up on Jan 10.
    So a Jan 15 settlement means a Feb 1 start at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenA07 View Post
    The NHL/NHLPA learned nothing from the lost season in 04 and I worry will not from this season.
    And that's why they're a complete joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by FishMonger View Post
    I think one of the problems (one of many) is that they were taught people would come back quickly, and revenue could quickly grow, even after a lockout.
    They're dead wrong and complete idiots for thinking it'll happen again.

    Quote Originally Posted by santiclaws View Post
    at least some of the owners are genuinely worried about the damage of a second lost season and some supposedly don't think all 30 franchises would survive.
    The team in Phoenix (Glendale) is already as good as dead, and the Florida Panthers are right behind them. More teams will disappear after them.

    By the way, I'm "coming back" after the lockout. I love hockey, playing and watching, way too much for a lockout to interfere with that. The NHL is the highest level of the sport, so I'll continue watching when it returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenA07 View Post
    The one thing I'm happy about (wrong word, but I'll stick with it) is that we know they are only going to dangle a season in front of us for a few more weeks. Then they can finally put thing to rest.

    I love hockey and the Kings, and I'll be back game one when the league starts back up, but I would be lying if I didn't say that I hope a lot of people do end up walking away. In 1994 Baseball learned its lesson and there has been CBA peace since. The NHL/NHLPA learned nothing from the lost season in 04 and I worry will not from this season.
    Baseball has seen nearly exclusive revenue growth since the 1994 Strike. Any rumors of fan backlash were greatly exaggerated.

    MLB Revenues Grown From $1.4 Billion in 1995 to $7 Billion in 2010

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    Surely, the league and players have to know that the rules that brought speed -- and some scoring -- back to the game, helped to revive fan interest after the last lockout. But what could possibly be done this time? Bigger nets? Smaller goalie pads? Serving minor penalties in their entirety? Extending overtime to ten minutes? 3-on-3 in overtime? I don't see the bigger net issue getting any traction. There's a worry that further reduction of goalie padding will lead to safety issues. And the rest of those items aren't likely to have a great deal of impact on regular season games, certainly not enough to draw interest back to the sport. In fact, some of those things I mentioned are likely to disenfranchise some long-time followers of the game.

    The one thing I would hope in the way of rule changes would be a meaningful revamping of the point system. It's certainly been discussed to death in every hockey forum on the planet, but there could be a real chance here for a change that would motivate teams to play-to-win for 60 minutes.

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    what angry eyes said and; Get rid of the trapizoid, make the goalie fair game if he leaves his crease to play the puck and get rid of the instigator rule.

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