Thread: We are BACK!!!! NHL AND NHLPA REACH DEAL ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

Originally Posted by aragorn

to bargain

Originally Posted by jt

So if you're, say, the Predators or, say, the Wild...how would you compete but also show the "necessary self-control"?

Not easily to be honest, either the owner has to start digging money out of his pocket in the hope that in the long term it increase the value of the franchise enough so that when it is sold he recoups his investment or he goes Mark Cuban and doesn't care.

Without true revenue sharing in place there will always be teams that cannot afford to keep star players.

Originally Posted by santiclaws

Yeah, the "true partnership" thing is never going to happen. A lot of NHL owners are very, very conservative Republicans and believe unions are the work of the devil. There's no way they're partnering up with one.

There is no true partnership right now, both sides know there are billions of dollars sitting on the table and neither side will back down so they can get a share.

Originally Posted by Thud

Not easily to be honest, either the owner has to start digging money out of his pocket in the hope that in the long term it increase the value of the franchise enough so that when it is sold he recoups his investment or he goes Mark Cuban and doesn't care.

Without true revenue sharing in place there will always be teams that cannot afford to keep star players.




There is no true partnership right now, both sides know there are billions of dollars sitting on the table and neither side will back down so they can get a share.

Agreed...well said - on both counts.

And that's really my point in all this...it's not fixable because "true partnerships" between franchise owners and players is impossible because 1) owners don't want to give up the "extra" profit if/when revenue grows alot...and 2) players will never give up the guaranteed income and take the risk that they'll not only not get paid but they could actually owe money.

Originally Posted by jt

Agreed...well said - on both counts.

And that's really my point in all this...it's not fixable because "true partnerships" between franchise owners and players is impossible because 1) owners don't want to give up the "extra" profit if/when revenue grows alot...and 2) players will never give up the guaranteed income and take the risk that they'll not only not get paid but they could actually owe money.

It doesn't seem like they care about guaranteed income...

Originally Posted by Bollocks

It doesn't seem like they care about guaranteed income...

Guaranteed contract = Guaranteed income

Give up the guaranteed contact and they've got some skin in the game.

Merry Christmas to all you pro-con, con-pro bitches. Hope to see you at Staples next season. If you are willing to see a Reign game in B-town, I'll see you there.

Originally Posted by jt

Guaranteed contract = Guaranteed income

Give up the guaranteed contact and they've got some skin in the game.

Most of them won't get their millions for this year. But then again, those top paid players probably get around the same amount, hence the ease of going into a prolonged lockout.

Depends how you spin it, yeah.

New Year's Solution Coming...Plus What the Owners Have Given NHLPA | TrueHockey

Originally Posted by santiclaws

New Year's Solution Coming...Plus What the Owners Have Given NHLPA | TrueHockey

Thanks for the post. Nothing really new except a writer making things a little clearer for us. He might be more optimistic than I am though.