Thread: We are BACK!!!! NHL AND NHLPA REACH DEAL ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

Originally Posted by santiclaws

New Year's Solution Coming...Plus What the Owners Have Given NHLPA | TrueHockey

I agree with the article.When their backs are up against the wall a deal will get done.Too many fans are pissed off.They can't afford to cancel the season.

Originally Posted by doughtydiva

I agree with the article.When their backs are up against the wall a deal will get done.Too many fans are pissed off. They can't afford to cancel the season.

There is very little incentive for the NHL to accept anything less than their last offer while there is great incentive for the PA to accept the NHL's last offer.

Problem is, that offer is off the table and in what form could that offer make a future appearance, if at all?

Make whole won't be coming back at $300M.

all i hear is charlie brown's teacher when it comes to this stuffs.

If anything's been proven in the past (recent and otherwise), it's that both sides don't care that the fans are pissed, so using that as a rationale for not cancelling the season is faulty. Secondly, not one prediction based on logic has been proven true. Both sides, when given the chance, manage to shoot themselves in the foot.

Originally Posted by Bogey

Make whole won't be coming back at $300M.

I'd be surprised if it came back that high too, if at all.

Originally Posted by UnholyGoalie

If anything's been proven in the past (recent and otherwise), it's that both sides don't care that the fans are pissed, so using that as a rationale for not cancelling the season is faulty. Secondly, not one prediction based on logic has been proven true. Both sides, when given the chance, manage to shoot themselves in the foot.

I agree with this. Once again the lockout how shown me: 1) players and owners are both fools. 2) I missed hockey a bunch for about a month and then miss it less and less as time goes once 3) hockey will always be 4th or lower of the Big 3 sports.

Football owners & players were smart. Once things got close to causing a loss of games, they realized the gravy train they had and came to a deal. Basketball was a little more foolish and lost a month but then settled. Hockey continues to go crazy. All this optimism in the press but I don't see a deal happening this year. There is too much ego and stupid involved in hockey.

Originally Posted by beedee

because the kicker is more or less in a defenseless position while he is in the kicking motion. they are fair game on a kickoff return and if there is a blocked punt or field goal attempt they become fair game too. amirite?

correct, the analogy for the goaltender would be the lack of protection to hits - the pads and helmet are good for stopping pucks. not so good for collisions. at least the punter gets to wear full gear.

making goalies fair game would be asking for major injuries. why not just disallow them from passing the puck instead?

Originally Posted by hokiecat

I agree with this. Once again the lockout how shown me: 1) players and owners are both fools. 2) I missed hockey a bunch for about a month and then miss it less and less as time goes once 3) hockey will always be 4th or lower of the Big 3 sports.

Football owners & players were smart. Once things got close to causing a loss of games, they realized the gravy train they had and came to a deal. Basketball was a little more foolish and lost a month but then settled. Hockey continues to go crazy. All this optimism in the press but I don't see a deal happening this year. There is too much ego and stupid involved in hockey.

Pretty much, however, look at it this way. Football has revenue sharing, the NHL really does not, so the majority of teams are actually losing LESS now not having games than if the season was going on,you also have a number of players playing in other leagues, so all in, we have ended up with two unmotivated parties not really looking for middle ground in these negotiations....Until one side really starts to hurt this BS will drag on.

It will end up being the players that cave IMHO, for the majority of owners having an NHL franchise is a side business not their main stream of incoming, for each player that went to other leagues, there are 5 that didn't, at some point that group will want to get back to earning money, it's just a question of how long they tow the NHLPA line.

And the owners make their offer:

NHL presents new offer as time runs short, player source says - ESPN