Whose contract would you buy-out?

Dipietro and a 1st!

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Originally Posted by jt

It's not a logic thing. I'm just saying a player wouldn't do it. Why wouldn't Rob Blake waive his NTC and then re-sign? No good reason.....but he wouldn't.

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I'm not trying to be obtuse, I just don't understand any conceivable reason why a player wouldn't do it. So far, all you've suggested is that players wouldn't do it, which isn't an explanation. If a player was scared that they wouldn't be resigned after being bought out, that I could see. But i'm basically suggesting that they make a closed door agreement to go through the buyout, resign at a lower cap, and both sides win. Im assuming there will be something in the CBA to exclude this type of situation, because if not, every team with deep pockets and positive cash flow will do this in a heart beat.

The best move the Kings could do now is to buy out Quick and Doughty. These two players are hurting the team financially and have no upside to their game.

I'd buy out Brown just to turn around and sign him to the contract he deserves, thats how good he is.

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Originally Posted by hokiecat

None.

Maybe go back and buy out Cloutier again because he was a big ol' waste.

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Helped bring the Kings Doughty

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Originally Posted by Helvetica

I'm not trying to be obtuse, I just don't understand any conceivable reason why a player wouldn't do it. So far, all you've suggested is that players wouldn't do it, which isn't an explanation. If a player was scared that they wouldn't be resigned after being bought out, that I could see. But i'm basically suggesting that they make a closed door agreement to go through the buyout, resign at a lower cap, and both sides win. Im assuming there will be something in the CBA to exclude this type of situation, because if not, every team with deep pockets and positive cash flow will do this in a heart beat.

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You are assuming that the player in question wants to stay with the same team once he becomes a UFA. Also, it's possible that your team may be outbid for said UFA's services after he is bought out.

What's the hurry? Let's see what (or who) unravels...

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Originally Posted by Deuce

Because he didn't want to move? Or play somewhere else?

The two situations are different. If it were allowed it would potentially mean more money to the player and he would still be in the same situation team wise for the same amount of years. Only difference would be the team could have more cap space to build around him.

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Originally Posted by Helvetica

I'm not trying to be obtuse, I just don't understand any conceivable reason why a player wouldn't do it. So far, all you've suggested is that players wouldn't do it, which isn't an explanation. If a player was scared that they wouldn't be resigned after being bought out, that I could see. But i'm basically suggesting that they make a closed door agreement to go through the buyout, resign at a lower cap, and both sides win. Im assuming there will be something in the CBA to exclude this type of situation, because if not, every team with deep pockets and positive cash flow will do this in a heart beat.

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Originally Posted by CUP4LA

You are assuming that the player in question wants to stay with the same team once he becomes a UFA. Also, it's possible that your team may be outbid for said UFA's services after he is bought out.

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Precisely.

Remember when Kariya was going to re-sign with the Ducks (and then the Avs) after becoming a UFA? It was a lock. Remember when Eric Belanger had a firm deal to re-sign with the Caps and then didn't?

I'll say it again, it's not about logic...it's emotions.. There are similar (not exact but similar) situations throughout hockey history and this stuff just doesn't happen.........unless you're dealing with Mr. Spock.

Well it its a dead end anyways with the details being linked about amnesty buyouts in Birdman's thread.

Important to remember the two buyouts can only happen in the summer of 2013 or 2014. That's it. Also, according to Pierre Lebrun, it's against the new CBA to buyout and re-sign. Cap circumvention. You buyout a player and he is gone for good.