Thread: Whose contract would you buy-out?

Originally Posted by KingsWord

I'd buy out Brown just to turn around and sign him to the contract he deserves, thats how good he is.

he is getting the contract he deserves.

obtuse or not, the whole notion of buying out a player and then re-signing said player to a friendlier contract is INDEED verboten under the new CBA.


... as is trading for that player and acquiring via waivers if i'm not mistaken.

Originally Posted by Helvetica

I'm not trying to be obtuse, I just don't understand any conceivable reason why a player wouldn't do it. So far, all you've suggested is that players wouldn't do it, which isn't an explanation. If a player was scared that they wouldn't be resigned after being bought out, that I could see. But i'm basically suggesting that they make a closed door agreement to go through the buyout, resign at a lower cap, and both sides win. Im assuming there will be something in the CBA to exclude this type of situation, because if not, every team with deep pockets and positive cash flow will do this in a heart beat.

You kind of answered yourself and the new CBA backs you up:

Obvious reason here: The league doesn’t want teams to cheat the system and get a player back under a cheaper salary (since the buyout doesn’t count against the salary cap).

Trades, cheat deals and more CBA details - Cross Checks Blog - ESPN

As much as I dislike both parties on this lockout for what they made us endure, it feels good to talk puck again.

I dont understand all the flak. I asked if something was possible because it seemed like an interesting potential loop hole. The only answer i got was, "nobody will do it" without any reason as to why one might not. Obviously with the details being posted they've covered themselves on this front, but its not like its outside the realm of possibility that they decided to allow ALL teams to utilize the amnesty buyouts as they see fit in order to allow everyone to better manage their cap space. As it stands right now, only teams who's GMs REALLY ****ed up get to take a mulligan (2 now actually), so team's whos GMs did a better job signing their assets to planned, manageable contracts were hindered the last few seasons. Teams who "cheated" were at an advantage and are essentially not getting penalized.

Originally Posted by Helvetica

I dont understand all the flak. I asked if something was possible because it seemed like an interesting potential loop hole. The only answer i got was, "nobody will do it" without any reason as to why one might not. Obviously with the details being posted they've covered themselves on this front, but its not like its outside the realm of possibility that they decided to allow ALL teams to utilize the amnesty buyouts as they see fit in order to allow everyone to better manage their cap space. As it stands right now, only teams who's GMs REALLY ****ed up get to take a mulligan (2 now actually), so team's whos GMs did a better job signing their assets to planned, manageable contracts were hindered the last few seasons. Teams who "cheated" were at an advantage and are essentially not getting penalized.

You're not getting flak, you're getting answers to your question.

Originally Posted by Helvetica

I dont understand all the flak. I asked if something was possible because it seemed like an interesting potential loop hole. The only answer i got was, "nobody will do it" without any reason as to why one might not. Obviously with the details being posted they've covered themselves on this front, but its not like its outside the realm of possibility that they decided to allow ALL teams to utilize the amnesty buyouts as they see fit in order to allow everyone to better manage their cap space. As it stands right now, only teams who's GMs REALLY ****ed up get to take a mulligan (2 now actually), so team's whos GMs did a better job signing their assets to planned, manageable contracts were hindered the last few seasons. Teams who "cheated" were at an advantage and are essentially not getting penalized.

Originally Posted by jt

You're not getting flak, you're getting answers to your question.

which is what i did above... the answer to the question was, you can't.

Trades, cheat deals and more CBA details - Cross Checks Blog - ESPN

COMPLIANCE BUYOUTS
Teams will be allowed up to two buyouts over the next two summers -- 2013 and 2014 -- either one in each summer or two in one summer and none in the other. The new detail here that I found interesting is that any player bought out under these circumstances CANNOT be re-acquired by that same team during the upcoming season, not by waivers, not by trade and not by free-agent signing.

Obvious reason here: The league doesn’t want teams to cheat the system and get a player back under a cheaper salary (since the buyout doesn’t count against the salary cap).

in other words... not even if we made a trade with Philly...

I was just thinking to myself..

Amazing that there is not a single player on this team that I'd want DL to buy-out.

How many other teams out there can say that? Every single one of their players are useful, and signed to good contracts.

*not saying DL never made mistakes, but none of them, thankfully, were "long-term" errors.

Originally Posted by jt

You're not getting flak, you're getting answers to your question.

Ya ya ya. At least im not being nit picky about the lock out. Thank god hockey is back.