All Purpose Trade Deadline Thread

**notbob** · February 28th, 2012, 08:40 AM

Anyone surprised at the lack of goalie movement? I guess the prices were too high. I thought for sure Chicago would go after Nabakov or Khabibulin.

**jerseydevil** · February 28th, 2012, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by bob8880

Anyone surprised at the lack of goalie movement? I guess the prices were too high. I thought for sure Chicago would go after Nabakov or Khabibulin.

Apparently Snow is trying really hard to re-sign Nabby(wtf move # 4000). Pretty sure the cost for Khabibulin was set pretty damned high too and only got higher when Bishop went to Ottawa.

**notbob** · February 28th, 2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Apparently Snow is trying really hard to re-sign Nabby(wtf move # 4000). Pretty sure the cost for Khabibulin was set pretty damned high too and only got higher when Bishop went to Ottawa.

So Nabakov goes from holding out and not playing to "Sure I'll re-sign with you guys"?

I would think he would test the UFA market. As long as he doesnt ask for a ridiculous amount like last time I can see a team like TB picking him up provided they cant get their hands on a young up and comer.

**jerseydevil** · February 28th, 2012, 09:24 AM

Well yeah, Nabby will most likely walk for nothing. Surprised? I mean, what a smart move by the Isles to claim him. You know you could flip him for a high pick...but once again they find the banana peel. Silly Isles.

I just realized Hamrlik was not traded. That's awkward...after he read that he was shopped he had a 'call out' fest against management/coaching. Wanna get away?

**Kubrick** · February 28th, 2012, 10:08 AM

Rick Nash's Press Conference

Rick Nash Press Conference (2/28/12) Video - NHL VideoCenter - Columbus Blue Jackets

I just can't hate this guy. He's in a terrible position. His front office has been abyssmal since day 1 and I really don't blame him for not wanting a part in the latest re-build attempt. Especially if Howson is going to be in charge of it.

Good luck in New York or San Jose, Rick.

jt · February 28th, 2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by gescom

again, i am almost never on the side of a player under these type of circumstances. maybe i have a soft spot for Nash, i don't know. but i personally feel that he has been dogged by this organization since Christ was a corporal - they have done NOTHING to help him help them.... EVER!

i may be wrong, but the timeline as far as i can remember has been...

1. realizing trading for Jeff Carter was yet another in a long line of monumental mistakes, it's made known they are looking to move him.

2. Occupy Nationwide Arena

3. organization comes out in support of Greg Howson, despite reports of conflicting opinions regarding a complete organizational rebuild.

4. indicate a willingness to explore a trade involving Rick Nash, to which he and his agent submit the mythical "list" of teams he would accept a trade to - as per HIS right under the conditions of his contract... given to him by the Columbus Blue Jackets.

5. Jeff Carter is traded.

6. Nash is becoming increasingly dissatisfied as the clock ticks without resolution... does not get traded by 3:00 PM EST.

7. Howson holds a Nash specific press conference, at which time - THE FIRST TIME IT IS MENTIONED, he indicated that it was Nash who originally asked to be traded.

now... this whole idea of a provided list of teams is nothing new. we see it all the time, and i have never seen it unfold like this... with exception to Dany Heatley flat out denying a "completed" trade to Edmonton... which sucked on a different level because the names of the return players got out.

... and with regard to that list, there have been so many conflicting reports as to who was or wasn't on it we can probably only cite the Rangers with any certainty, and then make educated guesses about the rest. even Dean Lombardi said Howson never told him either way about the Kings.

i think it should matter a little that Nash requested to be traded in the first place, considering that it seemingly happened before the idea to move Carter went public, and we heard nary a word about it until AFTER the deadline was over... and in such an unnecessary fashion that loaned itself to the idea that all Howson was doing was sending out a "well f*** you too!" response - in completely poor taste. much like everything else involving Nash and his entire time in Columbus, he has never complained about anything out loud, nor was his trade request made in public.

what Howson did was wrong, and what he's done to the fans of the Columbus Blue Jackets is even worse.

Don't get me wrong, I'm neither defending Howson nor attacking Nash. I just think that when a player demands a trade (which isn't part of the contract), he's the one who started lowering the bar and if the team then uses whatever leverage they have to get him to accept a trade to ANY team (not just the five on a list), I'm ok with that. IMO, the issue of bad management of the team is separate from the trade demands.

If Nash didn't want to be part of Columbus's continuing bad management, maybe he shouldn't have signed a pretty f'n sweet 8 year extension in 2009. For whatever reason, he chose to sign it and now he wants out. Fine...but if he's going to do something outside the contract (demand a trade) then he's got no right to expect the team to also not do something outside the contract (ask him to go to whatever team gives them the best offer).

**santiclaws** · February 28th, 2012, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Kubrick

Rick Nash's Press Conference

Rick Nash Press Conference (2/28/12) Video - NHL VideoCenter - Columbus Blue Jackets

I just can't hate this guy. He's in a terrible position. His front office has been abyssmal since day 1 and I really don't blame him for not wanting a part in the latest re-build attempt. Especially if Howson is going to be in charge of it.

Good luck in New York or San Jose, Rick.

Why do you think he's going to New York or San Jose? If Howson is still in charge at the draft, I bet the Kings could trade Columbus Carter+ for him.

**Drunken Crunker** · February 28th, 2012, 03:31 PM

Well guys - you can take partial credit for the Canucks making their big splash yesterday.

General manager Mike Gillis told reporters in Phoenix, where the Canucks play tonight: “We felt we needed better balance on our team. We needed some size, we needed some toughness. It’s not about Boston [and losing the Stanley Cup Final]. We have to get out of the Western Conference if we can. If we play Los Angeles, if we play San Jose, Chicago, they are all big teams. Last year, I felt that we didn’t get pushed around, but there were grinding series and we need bigger bodies in order to grind through them and we got one in Pahlsson and we got one in Zack.”

Read more: Cody Hodgson moving on to opportunity

**notbob** · February 29th, 2012, 08:56 AM

**vannuxforlife** · February 29th, 2012, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by dgrycan

Look . . . I liked how "Silent G" took a step forward this year, but scoring was not and has not been an issue with the Canucks since his arrival. They scored the most goals in the NHL last season, and have the most this season as well. They basically altered their team from 3 scoring lines to 2 scoring lines, and two checking lines - a system that has been far more successful on the Stanley Cup stage in most recent years. Pahlsson anchors the new checking line, and more importantly, he's kept away from Detroit. Pahlsson knows how to shut-down the Twins in a Series - he's done it before.

Remember - Kassian has accomplished more at the AHL Level than Cody did, and he's a year younger at this point. And we've all heard how much of a learning curve it takes power forwards to develop. Listening to Gillis today, I get the feeling that Jordan Schroeder in Chicago also might have made this deal a little easier to swallow for the "future". So while I liked Hodgson, I certainly see Kassian as a rarer commodity in the NHL marketplace.

You're right, for the future point of view, it does seem like we improved. As for scoring, I think the whole team has been off lately but you're right they are on top and scoring goals so you can't really complain.

After one game too Kassian made me feel better. Pahlsson not so much yet but I'm not too worried about him. Further, if it is
true that Cody's agent or Cody's dad went to push for him to get more ice time, I'm not surprised the Canucks decided they didn't
want to deal with that. Cody himself didn't seem to have an issue though so unfortunate if that does prove to have been the case.

Regardless, time to move on anyway. (Hopefully Gragnani plays well while Ballard is out too)

This deal does put a lot of pressure on Gillis in the off-season - especially if the Canucks don't win a Cup. If they win it, I think they can move Schneider for a more conservative long-term type package involving prospects and picks. If they don't, then no doubt he'll be used to acquire more "prime time" help. And I honestly believe that if they are on this list, they make a strong move for Rick Nash with Schneider being the one thing that other teams really don't have ready to offer.

Of course, I would offer Luongo first just to see if their stupid enough to bite that hook.

Depending on what happens in the playoffs this year the draft day could be an interesting day!

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