110LikesDon't take this the wrong way Wil E., but I'm kinda siding with Goldwater. That whole arena deal from start to finish, and this goes back to the idiots that built it, is bunk.Originally Posted by Wile E.
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Don't take this the wrong way Wil E., but I'm kinda siding with Goldwater. That whole arena deal from start to finish, and this goes back to the idiots that built it, is bunk.
at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.
---gescom
No offense taken. I agree with you that Glendale has fouled this up from the get go, and now they are in panic mode and trying to slide this deal through with any means possible. Glendale only has itself to blame for this mess. Win or lose in court, Glendale is still losing money, which is bad for the tax payers of Glendale. I still stick to my belief that the Coyotes staying Glendale does give the city more hope for the future than having them leave. I understand what GWI is trying to do, I just think their stance hurts Glendale in the long run. And now their motives are being questioned with new rumors about GWI being funded by Canadian investors that want the Coyotes back in Canada. It may be just conspiracy theorists starting these rumors, but who knows.....
There were more court proceedings today...
Judge confirms Glendale's Phoenix Coyotes deal not immediately effective
Wile, I think one of two things needs to happen real quick:
1. Find a fifth vote for the deal. One potential vote was absent last time.
2. Put a competing petition out in the community that would have different terms and circulate it. Great way to make it harder for people to get something on the ballot because people think they already signed the petition when they haven't. Also, if the bad petition gets on the ballot then it has competition. If the opponents require a "yes" vote to invalidate the deal then competing measures on the ballot often results in people voting "no" on both. Also, by law if both measures pass than it is the measure with the most votes that becomes law so a measure with conditions that keeps the lease agreement in place as agreed upon would become law.
I dont disagree with you on either of the points you made. #1 would be big. Problem is that the one voter who did not vote last time has traditionally been a 'no' vote if memory serves me correctly. It had always been a 4-3 in favor of the Yotes. Recent vote was 4-2 because the female voter (dont recall her name) was hospitalized. Not sure if Coyotes can get that 5th 'yes' vote.
On point #2, I think the reason something like that hadn't happened is because of the deadline given to Glendale by the NHL. It had been reported that the NHL gave Glendale about a week after the Coyotes last game ended to get a deal approved. Glendale then requested, and was given a 30 day extension by the NHL. Which is why I believe Glendale went with the 'emergency vote' that has been challenged by Goldwater. I dont know if the NHL was bluffing to speed up the process, but I do believe that Glendale believed that Bettman was ready to pack up and leave Glendale if they didnt vote on the lease quickly.
Not sure what Glendale, or the NHL, does next if Goldwater/challenging citizens get enough sigs this week to take the lease to ballot. But your #2 point could certainly be a possibility if it gets to that point.
Judge has just ruled in favor of the City of Glendale and the Jamison Group, denying Goldwater's request to invalidate the CoG's vote. The sale of the team and lease agreement with the Jamison Group is moving forward.
Wonder if this will effect whether or not Doan stays in Phoenix. Things looking very positive now for the Coyotes to remain in Phx, but finalizing the deal will still take a month or so.
Can't believe I'm happy for this.
I have always felt the Ducks AND the Yotes have diluted the Kings fan base (see only neutral site sell out long ago).
But I have played in the Arizona Hockey Tournament numerous times and the area does have a strong hockey community and if the team left too many businesses would be and people would be at a loss. Hopefully this is the beginning of a long bandwagon and now the Kings and Yotes have a rivalry.
Not to sound terse but WHY? I don't have any idea either way in this issue. I would like to keep the Yotes in place for no other reason it keeps the Kings travel miles WAY down (this includes Anaheim as well).
Just curious.
Sure but not having them there is a huge difference in travel....there are plenty of Kings fans around to make up for this.
jom
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