Thread: Doan Seeks 4 years, $30M if he leaves Coyotes

Originally Posted by AntiClimacus

Doan ain't worth 7.5 million, Sabres are morons for offering that kind of contract to him.

Hope the Sabres get him too.

Originally Posted by LOSTcauseZERO

And I just heard butthead-man say "the owners feel players are being paid too much money." Okay owners, then why did you offer and agree to pay that money? Hello McFly!

This is an oversimplification of what the owners are trying to say. What they are saying is that the system needs more changes in order to prevent salaries from sky rocketing. You HAVE to hand out huge contracts in order to compete. As long as their are loop holes that the few wealthy teams can exploit then salaries will go up and every team will have to fork out more money in order to stay competitive.

Every year teams take advantage of the ability to hand out lengthy contract with declining salary into years everyone KNOWS the player has no intention of actually playing. Teams can add ridiculous signing bonuses knowing that a small market team will have great difficulty to match (see Flyer/Weber). The rich teams made a mockery of the salary cap. They quickly realized that they could still pay the players 10+ million a year while keeping the actual cap hit down to 7 or 8. The small market teams can't match contracts like that and most definitely can't build stacked contenders filled with those contracts.

The fact is the current CBA does need changes made to it to eliminate those loopholes. I'm not saying the owners are saints, but the players aren't either. They will do everything they can to create new loopholes so that salaries will continue to rise. The players proposed that rich teams could BUY cap space from small market teams in their counter offer. All that would do is diminish competitive balance and help salaries keep increasing.
Both sides are fighting for a bigger piece of the pie, that's how these things work. I think they'll get something done without losing any regular season games. Crossing my fingers on that one.

Wow, looks like he needs to start sporting a hat in the desert sun!

The Arizona Court of Appeals overturned a lower court ruling and ordered the tax initiative put on the November ballot. Looks like that's the end of Doan in Phoenix.

Originally Posted by daxx

this speaks to a greater problem about the owners wanting it both ways. They're willing to throw tons of cash at a guy then complain that they're losing money. Well, wtf?

a-men!

Originally Posted by EB924

This is an oversimplification of what the owners are trying to say. What they are saying is that the system needs more changes in order to prevent salaries from sky rocketing. You HAVE to hand out huge contracts in order to compete. As long as their are loop holes that the few wealthy teams can exploit then salaries will go up and every team will have to fork out more money in order to stay competitive.

Every year teams take advantage of the ability to hand out lengthy contract with declining salary into years everyone KNOWS the player has no intention of actually playing. Teams can add ridiculous signing bonuses knowing that a small market team will have great difficulty to match (see Flyer/Weber). The rich teams made a mockery of the salary cap. They quickly realized that they could still pay the players 10+ million a year while keeping the actual cap hit down to 7 or 8. The small market teams can't match contracts like that and most definitely can't build stacked contenders filled with those contracts.

The fact is the current CBA does need changes made to it to eliminate those loopholes. I'm not saying the owners are saints, but the players aren't either. They will do everything they can to create new loopholes so that salaries will continue to rise. The players proposed that rich teams could BUY cap space from small market teams in their counter offer. All that would do is diminish competitive balance and help salaries keep increasing.
Both sides are fighting for a bigger piece of the pie, that's how these things work. I think they'll get something done without losing any regular season games. Crossing my fingers on that one.

Again, that is completely the owners' fault. I can't fault the players for taking the money, because I would do the exact same thing. If all 30 owners can't get on the same page, then locking out the players is complete garbage.

Doan to make decision before 9/15:
NHL.com - Report: Doan will make decision by Sept. 15 - NHL Free Agency 2012

Originally Posted by LOSTcauseZERO

Again, that is completely the owners' fault. I can't fault the players for taking the money, because I would do the exact same thing. If all 30 owners can't get on the same page, then locking out the players is complete garbage.

wouldn't 30 owners getting on the same page be collusion?

he should have signed his deal before these CBA talks started. Then again, maybe he's factoring in the potential 24% decrease.