Thread: Heatley a Shark -done deal

Originally Posted by Slopppydog

If they did, waive him I assume the waiver order is based off last years end of season record and we are sitting at 5th as of now? Also would a team that claims him be on the hook for his entire salary or is it split with San Jose?

If San Jose were to waive Marleau and someone were to claim him, the claiming team would be on the hook for the whole salary.

If San Jose were to waive Marleau, no one puts in a claim, they send Marleau to the AHL, and then have to put him on re-entry waivers to bring him back up, then San Jose would be on hook for half the salary if someone claimed him on re-entry waivers.

The Sharks waiving Marleau would be as surprising to me as the Oilers trading Gretzky. It would be awful asset and cap management. Keep him or get him to waive his NTC clause. Waiving him would mean a $2.1M cap hit this year and next and they simply don't need to clear that much space. They just swapped $7.33M for $7.5M and can play the right guy in Cheechoo's spot...he's not a 3rd liner but not good enough to be a 2nd liner.

Originally Posted by lunchbox

...and now the speculation can finally end. thank the lawd!

TSN linky

End shmend...the speculation now is how long until a Frolov for Marleau deal.

Originally Posted by SnoochieBoochie

I am actually suprised with what the Sharks gave up. I have always liked Cheechoo, and although not a superstar, I thought he was a cornerstone of that franchise. Add another 20 goal scorer and a 2nd round pick to the mix to get a 40 goal scorer who's been nothing but a cancer to his teams and teammates, I think its a bad trade for the Sharks.

Remember all of the cups that were promised when the traded for Thorton. I am pretty dissapointed with the the trade from the Sharks prospective. When Heatley is hurt when the Kings play the Sharks, I'm gonna love the trade.

I disagree. Cheechoo SHOULD have been a cornerstone but just isn't. He could have been the next Ricci but he just isn't. I like him ok, but he hasn't developed into the elite 3rd liner he could have. Michalek is immensely talented but again, he just isn't developing into the player you need him to be - and especially not at that salary.

But I agree that it's a bad trade for the Sharks - not because of what they gave up but because (just like with Thornton) it's subtraction by addition.

Originally Posted by Goallum

Value-wise, not that great of a trade for Ottawa, unless Michalek starts living up to his pre-draft projections.

Agreed on the value, but their options were so limited what could they do? Compared to when Pitt traded Jagr to the Caps (for Kris Beech, Michal Sivek and Ross Lupaschuk), the Sens did fantastic.

Originally Posted by Birdman

$33M in cap space tied up in 5 players.

Kiss Marleau and Nabakov goodbye next summer.

They only have 15 rostered players, need 7 for a minimum roster, and have $5M or so to do it.

This is going to be a disaster for San Jose, IMO.

I think they can easily get 7 guys for $5M and end up with just as many points as last season, maybe more:

Heatley-Thornton-Setoguchi
Marleau-Peverly-Clowe
Mitchell-Ortmeyer-Nichol
Shelley-McGinn-Staubitz
Bench: Hinote

Blake-Vlasic
Boyle-Murray
Huskins-Moore
Bench: scrub UFA

Nabokov
Greiss/UFA at league minimum

Originally Posted by VCRW

Marleau for Frolov straight up? Kind for kind deal... DL gets rid of a "not DL guy" and gets a "DL guy" back. San Jose gets $2 Mil cap space.

I think that's a deal that makes sense from both sides, although I waffle on the "value" of each player, given their ages and salaries (and salary demands for extensions).

Originally Posted by Dominic Lavoie

So here are the the top six forwards for San Jose:
Heatley - Thornton - Pavelski
Clowe - Marleau - Setoguchi

Too bad they have basically nada on the bottom two lines. And they have an aging Rob Blake anchoring the blue line along with Dan Boyle. After that they have Vlasic, Huskins and Doug Murray.

They have some problems moving forward for sure. I could see them trying to move Marleau for more advanced prospects at this point...

I laid it all out above and I think that's a team that should finish the season with about the same points, assuming they're healthy.

Complete ass-raping by the Sharks, although considering the circumstances, it's not that surprising.

San Jose was the best in the Pacific before Heatley, now they are even better. If you figure the Sharks and the Ducks #1 and #2 can the Kings beat out Dallas for 3rd in the Pacific?
For the Play-offs, I see the top six #1 SJ, #2 Det, #3 Van, #4 Chi, #5 Cal, #6 Ana. This order can change but I'm pretty sure this will be the top 6. The 2 remaining spots are a fight between LA, Edm, Dal, Stl, Col and Min. Are the Kings better than these 6 teams?

Maybe?

I don't think we'll have any idea until the season has played out. There have been a bunch of pretty big changes to a lot of teams this off season.

A team full of malcontents and playoff choke artists never go far into the playoffs....

I don't know but I'd imagine this thread will be put in the NHL talk forum pretty soon.

Heatley should make sure he drives Blake to practice.

-Chill out, just a joke.

Originally Posted by Blaked4

San Jose was the best in the Pacific before Heatley, now they are even better. If you figure the Sharks and the Ducks #1 and #2 can the Kings beat out Dallas for 3rd in the Pacific?
For the Play-offs, I see the top six #1 SJ, #2 Det, #3 Van, #4 Chi, #5 Cal, #6 Ana. This order can change but I'm pretty sure this will be the top 6. The 2 remaining spots are a fight between LA, Edm, Dal, Stl, Col and Min. Are the Kings better than these 6 teams?

I think that puts the Kings 7th.