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    Default How much longer until they announce the next Expansion?

    You know its coming, especially with them having it reorganized into 30 teams unevenly (2 more in the East). They'll allocate 2 new franchises, and then allow those that are struggling to move to the losers, maybe even charging them relocation fees split amongst the teams that aren't relocating. The fees to relocate the Coyotes would have been $101M to $150M to move them to Hamilton.

    Lets say its $275M per team for 2 teams, that's $18M per team in their pockets.

    Bettman will use the attendance numbers that are crushing the NBA's numbers as leverage.

    I think its Seattle and Quebec. Then maybe Florida moves to Toronto/Hamilton and Nashville to Vegas?

    Each teams gonna lose 2 to 3 players. Who are we leaving unprotected if it were this summer? Here was the last expansion draft:

    2000 NHL Expansion Draft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.

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    Vegas can't be a viable market

    Seattle makes sense to me, another Canadian team would be rough and would require another relocation out west. The only other viable market to support 2 teams might actually be the bay area but that would require massive infrastructure.

    Kansas City/Oklahoma is a tough sell but those markets are growing with disposable cash and Energy Dolllars.

    We'll see but i think it gets shelved for at least 3 more seasons.

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    26 of the 28 teams existing in the league at the time of the draft were each allowed to protect either one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards
    If it's the same as last time, I say you have go with the latter and protect Jones and Quick. So the questions becomes, which D and which forwards.

    3 Defense:
    Drew (of course)
    Slava
    Muzzin (edge because he will be an RFA as opposed to a UFA in 2015, which A-Mart will be)
    The stay at home guys aren't likely to get plucked, and if they do, they're easier to replace.

    7 Forwards:
    Kopi
    Carter
    Brown
    Williams
    Richards (if he can pull his **** together, which I believe he will)
    King
    Toffoli

    I might actually leave Richards off the list if he doesn't improve, because he might not be considered worth the cap hit if he declines.

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    Why the hell did SJ leave Nabokov unprotected in that draft?

    Columbus

    San Jose traded Jan Caloun, a ninth-round pick (Martin Paroulek) in the 2000 NHL Entry Draft, and a conditional pick (Aaron Johnson) in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft to Columbus on June 11, 2000, after the Blue Jackets agreed not to select Evgeni Nabokov.
    Buffalo traded Jean-Luc Grand-Pierre, Matt Davidson, and two fifth-round draft picks (one each in the 2000 (Tyler Kolarik) and 2001 (Andreas Jämtin) Entry Drafts) to Columbus on June 23, 2000, after the Blue Jackets agreed not to select a goaltender from the Sabres.

    Minnesota

    San Jose traded Andy Sutton, a seventh-round pick (Peter Bartoš) in the 2000 Entry Draft and a third-round pick (later traded to Columbus - (Aaron Johnson)) in the 2001 Entry Draft to Minnesota on June 11, 2000, for an eighth-round pick in the 2000 Entry Draft after the Wild agreed not to select Evgeni Nabokov.
    I can't remember but I didn't think they had their logjam then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    You know its coming, especially with them having it reorganized into 30 teams unevenly (2 more in the East). They'll allocate 2 new franchises, and then allow those that are struggling to move to the losers, maybe even charging them relocation fees split amongst the teams that aren't relocating. The fees to relocate the Coyotes would have been $101M to $150M to move them to Hamilton.

    Lets say its $275M per team for 2 teams, that's $18M per team in their pockets.

    Bettman will use the attendance numbers that are crushing the NBA's numbers as leverage.

    I think its Seattle and Quebec. Then maybe Florida moves to Toronto/Hamilton and Nashville to Vegas?

    Each teams gonna lose 2 to 3 players. Who are we leaving unprotected if it were this summer? Here was the last expansion draft:

    2000 NHL Expansion Draft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    I think you are right with the new markets of QC and Seattle. Those seemed to be the 2 front runners when it came to trying to get the Coyotes out of Phoenix. Hamilton would work, but there would be a ton of politics involved with a team going there or a 2nd team in Toronto. If I remember correctly, the Maple Leafs felt that the Hamilton area was part of their market (or something like that) and began fighting any move of a team to that area. It was a few years ago when Hamilton was a contender to land the Coyotes, but I remember that there was some sort of push back from Toronto.

    That being said, I don't think anything happens for at least 4 seasons. At the 5 year mark for the Coyotes new deal, the new owners can move the team if they've lost enough money. I think the NHL waits to see what happens with that before granting anyone else a team.
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    Seattle and Portland. Make it happen Bettman!

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    Default How much longer until they announce the next Expansion?

    I don't see it happening in the next 3 years/seasons

    Economy still needs to rebound a bit .

    I don't remember Quebec City having an arena up to the NHL specs ( not ice but amenities etc)

    If they go to Canada they would need to build a new arena.

    If they go to Seattle the Key arena is sitting there.
    Not the most up to date but can work while the build something new near the baseball and football Stadiums.

    Portland has the "Roseland " Arena . Pretty up to date ( I think !) but feels much smaller than staples .

    I would think Kansas City would be the pick as a fairly new arena is there waiting , doubt it would get the needed support over the long run .

    Just my $0.02

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    Bobby Macs Take on expansion

    McKenzie: The NHL party line hasn't changed. There are no formal plans for expansion but if they expand and everyone assumes at some point, they're going to, the common knowledge is that Seattle is the primary target in the Pacific Northwest. The strong sense I'm getting now is that Las Vegas is second on that list behind Seattle and the NHL wants to be the first major professional sports league to put a franchise in Las Vegas. People in Quebec City may be saying, 'Hey, what about us?' Well, keep in mind, there's no rule that says if they expand, that they only expand by two teams. The possibility of expanding by three teams, with Quebec City being one of them, is at least something that will be considered. There's lots of money in expansion; over $300 million per franchise, close to a $1 billion winfall that isn't shared with the players or anyone else, just the owners.
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    Vegas is also about to build a 20k seat arena. http://www.8newsnow.com/story/243965...arena-in-vegas

    Personaly I dont want a team in Vegas solely for the fact we would lose Frozen Fury
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    Quote Originally Posted by notbob View Post
    Personaly I dont want a team in Vegas solely for the fact we would lose Frozen Fury
    You would have several opportunitues per season to go to Vegas and see the Kings play meaningful, regular season games.

    On top of that, it would help cut down on the travel the Kings would have to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
    You would have several opportunitues per season to go to Vegas and see the Kings play meaningful, regular season games.

    On top of that, it would help cut down on the travel the Kings would have to do.
    It wouldnt be the same.
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