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    Great fight...I loved the TV shot from above...fun stuff.

    Kessel is a turd. Now that's not to say he should have been fighting Scott but the spearing was turd-like.

    And...JB...awesome!

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    And the irony thickens: http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/20...s-school/?_r=0

    Michigan State responded firmly to the on-ice attack by Spartans Andrew Conboy and Corey Tropp against Michigan defenseman Steve Kampfer.
    (Tropp was the player who got KOed, which led to Scott feeling like he had to beat someone up.)

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    You don' use your stick as a weapon. Period.

    Use it to hold the guy off at arm's length like a fully-extended crosscheck. Or threaten to crosscheck him as you back away. Maybe skate the hell away or just duck and cover.

    But at no point do you axe-chop a guy or spear him, especially after he's tied up with other players or officials.

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    Okay, I am ready to reassess my original stand concerning Kessel's lumberjacking on Scott. I have now seen Shanahan's video explaining Kessel's suspension. It shows a game from earlier in the preseason, where Kessel uses the same severe chopping motion on two Flyers. I am now ready to put him into the category of Ice Douche Extraordinaire.

    Leafs’ Kessel suspended for remainder of preseason for Scott slash | ProHockeyTalk

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    I feel he shoulda gotten something in the regular season, but at least they'll keep a closer eye on him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Conie View Post
    LOL at this guys attempt to justify yesterdays actions with 90's hockey.
    If you don't understand "the code", just say so. The era is irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by FishMonger View Post
    I think what it comes down to is, despite Scott being a d-bag for going after Kessel, I don't see taking 2-handers at a subdued guy as defending ones self. Nor spearing, regardless of how "'light' the 'tap' was.
    And that's ok if you don't. I do. What's he supposed to do...fight a punk goon like Scott? Jesus, the NHL even fined the coach for putting his punk goon ass out there.

    If Scott breaks 'the code' for going after a star player, doesn't Kessel break 'the code' for going after a guy who's already engaged? The argument I've heard elsewhere (and to a lesser extent here) is that "he started it" which reminds me of what children say to justify their bad behavior. I just cannot buy that as an excuse.
    I don't think he does...because Scott was the one who went after Kessel. Kessel started defending himself and then took a couple extra whacks to make a point. And the NHL thought so little of it they didn't even suspend him for meaningful games.

    I find the proximity of this post to your other post about not making an argument based on height a bit amusing. I know they're not exactly the same, but you must admit it is kinda funny.
    You're right...that was funny. The internet is wonderful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    First, Carlyle was a moron for putting him out there.
    The NHL disagrees. They think Rolston was the moron...seeing as how they fined him for "player selection and team conduct".

    I think Kessel is going to get some sort of suspension here. Had it been one swing, he might have gotten off with a fine. But he took another slash when Scott was tied up with other guys, that is a no no. So then he dropped the gloves, fought some one, picked up a stick and a 2nd time attempted to use it as a weapon with the attempted spear, again when Scott was tied up, this time with a linesman. No, that spear wasn't going to hurt, but it was the 2nd time he attempted to use it as a weapon against a player who was tied up with others and that is what most people have a problem with.
    Yup, he got a suspension alright. The NHL decided it was so bad they're keeping him from playing all of three preseason games...and he loses no money.

    Quote Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti View Post
    Maybe I need to watch it again, but didn't Kessel take an extra swing or two AFTER Scott was tangled with someone else?
    Yup. It's called making a point. And if Scott does that again Kessel should chop his knee and take him out for a few games. Goons shouldn't go after scorers without knowing there are repercussions. If Scott doesn't like getting slashed at...don't be a punk and go after high scorers.

    Regardless, the whole code thing doesn't hold water for me.
    I really don't understand this. If goons can go after high scorers without repercussions, the league is doomed to repeat the utter boredom of the 70s.

    Quote Originally Posted by darby View Post
    You don' use your stick as a weapon. Period.
    Like I said above...the NHL thought it was so bad they suspended him for all of 3 preseason games...and no fine. You know who DID get a fine? The Sabres coach for even putting Scott on the ice.

    Use it to hold the guy off at arm's length like a fully-extended crosscheck. Or threaten to crosscheck him as you back away. Maybe skate the hell away or just duck and cover.

    But at no point do you axe-chop a guy or spear him, especially after he's tied up with other players or officials.
    That just doesn't work. If Kessel had done that EVERY tough guy in the league would see him as fair game to do whatever they want to...because they know they could get away with it.

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    apparently



    we had a badass on our hands...

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    I feel so special jt quoted me twice.

    Take the code and shove it right up where everyone pulls it out of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jt View Post
    Yup. It's called making a point. And if Scott does that again Kessel should chop his knee and take him out for a few games. Goons shouldn't go after scorers without knowing there are repercussions. If Scott doesn't like getting slashed at...don't be a punk and go after high scorers.
    Kessel engaged. If he doesn't want to go with Scott, he should skate away. He had the opportunity to. Scott didn't jump him. And that gif shows Kessel making the first move. Don't act tough and then be a bitch by using a weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by jt View Post
    Like I said above...the NHL thought it was so bad they suspended him for all of 3 preseason games...and no fine. You know who DID get a fine? The Sabres coach for even putting Scott on the ice.
    So what you're saying is that the NHL thought what Kessel did was worse than what Scott did.
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