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    Dude is going to get paid in the KHL. Per some reports, in the neighborhood of high teens per year, for 4 years. He is doing himself a favor, and NJ a favor. But speaks volumes of his character, IMO.

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    If I found out that Lou was behind this, I would only be surprised by the fact that I found out.
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    What's with all this "Lou is behind it" sillyness?

    How exactly do you talk a player in or around his prime into retiring from the NHL to go play someplace else? To your franchise player (behind Brodeur, who will be out soon), no less?

    It wouldn't surprise me if Kovalchuk came to Lou with the idea and Lou wasn't super against it... but to think he came up with it or orchestrated it is really silly, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USCKingsFan31 View Post
    What's with all this "Lou is behind it" sillyness?

    How exactly do you talk a player in or around his prime into retiring from the NHL to go play someplace else? To your franchise player (behind Brodeur, who will be out soon), no less?

    It wouldn't surprise me if Kovalchuk came to Lou with the idea and Lou wasn't super against it... but to think he came up with it or orchestrated it is really silly, in my opinion.
    Lou is always finding ways to get players to sign for less, take a buyout, disappear during the construction of bridges in the greater NYC area, etc. Yes, it was tongue in cheek, but this was VERY good for the franchise, after they'd gotten themselves into financial trouble with a horrible contract. So, knowing that the organization was able to a) get out of a contract that was dragging them down, b) get rid of an overpaid/underperforming player and c) do both without losing any face, would you be surprised that it wasn't a strategic move on the part of the GM to "talk" him into it? The more I think about it, the more naive alternative reasoning sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cup4TheKings View Post
    I say, "LET 'EM GO"
    Was that at Pee Wee quote?

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    If I have any ill feelings toward the Devils themselves it's because these are the exact sort of back-door maneuvers that create lockouts. Need I point out that the original contract Kovalchuck signed was the straw that broke the camel's back and set in motion this most recent lockout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salami View Post
    c) do both without losing any face
    Eh... it isn't face-crippling, but being a laughing-stock and losing a franchise player in back-to-back years isn't exactly losing NO face.

    Quote Originally Posted by salami View Post
    would you be surprised that it wasn't a strategic move on the part of the GM to "talk" him into it? The more I think about it, the more naive alternative reasoning sounds.
    I think it is absurd.

    You have one of the greatest goalscorers of our generation, who you traded for and then signed to a career contract. You call him into your office and say "listen, Ilya, I know how much you love Russia... why not go play there permanently?" Most NHL players would be ****ing irate at this suggestion. Not only are you dishonoring the player and the contract by suggesting you don't want him anymore (after he has busted his balls for you, played tons of minutes and led you to a cup), you are also telling said player (your FRANCHISE offensive player) that he should go play in a minor-league and ditch the NHL in his prime. If this got out (i.e. Ilya demands trade, claims Lou told him he should go back to Russia, doesn't want to play for team that doesn't want him) it would be a MASSIVE black eye on the franchise.

    Lou is brilliant, but this one was just good luck.

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    Ilya was probably eying the door. I just think that Lou might have opened it for him.

    NJ is in serious financial straits. Successful companies, who face that and want to survive, cut costs where they can. Lou has a history of finding ways to cut costs. I might be overly suspicious about this one, but as Salami has said, if true, it's not a surprise.
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    Well now that he's back in the motherland we know the real reason......


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    It seems Kovalchuk didn't bring any of that American tendency to disagree with the government back to his homeland. Asked about Russia's vague -- but not so vaguely threatening -- anti-gay laws, Kovalchuk took the party line.

    "I agree, of course," he said. "I'm Russian, and we all have to respect that. It's personal and, like I said, it's a free world, but that's our line. That's our country, so everybody has to respect that."
    Well if it wasn't a ****storm before, it is one now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    Well now that he's back in the motherland we know the real reason......


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    Well if it wasn't a ****storm before, it is one now.
    He will not bite the hand that is going to feed him. If he was staying in America he would probably have said something different.

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