[quote=jt;1680930]Sure, and $5M is 9% but he's not going to sign for $8M or $5M per yr. His demand to the Thrashers has been $9.5M/yr and I bet he's going to sign with someone for something close to that...at least $9M/yr. If the cap goes down to $51M that's 17.6%. Given the threat that he'll go to Russia, he might get that $9.5M (or more), that's 18.6%.
Kopitar's potential is there for 40 or 50 goals and I agree it's more likely that he tops out around 40. That said, Kovalchuk has averaged 46 goals the last 5 seasons so on average he's not a 50 goal scorer either.
Sure, but that's a coach's decision. He could have played him with Smyth and Brown but chose not to. Last night Crosby played with Guerin and Kennedy and Malkin played with Fedotenko and Nick Johnson...which of those is going to be the 50 (or 40...or 30) goal scorer?
Again, who are the snipers on Crosby's line? On Malkin's line? It's up to Kopitar to figure this out.
That said, I agree that the Kings need one other high end talent in the top 6 and they don't have that. But I don't think it has to be someone with Kovalchuk's skill - or salary.
There's no need to be disappointed because DL has ALREADY taken a shot.
there's quite a bit of back and forth on this when overall i think we agree on most things.and i think it's too easy to focus on Kovy's attitude - it can't be easy to play on a team for nearly 10 years and only make the playoffs once (we should know). a change of scenery might be exactly what he needs.
It's easy because it's true and it's obvious. Coasting because your team is in tough to make the playoffs is inexcusable for a 22 yr old and if a 26 yr old does it and I was his GM I'd go bananas. It's the main reason Thornton was traded and that trade had almost no negative impact on the Bruins.
Someone else addressed this but that's just not true. He played three seasons with Marc Savard. Kozlov also played alot of center in Atlanta and he wa a VERY talented center.
I said it above, but Kozlov played ALOT of center from 02-03 thru 05-06...and he was a very good center.
In general, this is what i think...
1. DL should not trade major pieces for Kovy (schenn, johnson, bernier) because he doesn't make us a cup contender this year so why trade those pieces when you can sign him in the summer.
2. DL should not spend more than $8M/year (cap hit) on Kovy - if someone offers him $9.5 then move on.
3. The Kings need a scorer - not necessarily Kovalchuk but someone that can finish.
If DL can't get Kovy for that then try and find someone else - I just don't think that someone else is in the system right now.
We both believe Kopitar will be a great player. I don't think he's going to be Crosby but I think he has 35-40 goal potential and could hit 100 points if he plays with another talented player.
Let's not forget that Malkin and Crosby play on the same PP unit. the both had 40+ PP points last year. kopitar had 24.
that's a very big difference and would turn kopitar from a point per game player to close to a 100 point player.
and it also should be noted that savard only played one full year with the thrashers and Kovy scored 52 that year (savard had 69 assists). savard only played 1/2 seasons with ATL the other two years and he didn't really have good years until his last year in ATL.
kozlov has played some with Kovy but he's not a true center or a great player. his high in points before playing with Kovy was 58 (6 full seasons). with ATL he's hit 80. i would argue Kovy made him a better player, not the other way around.
so i would say that kovy played one year with a great player (savard) and he scored 52 goals that year. i forgot that he played with savard - but it just shows that Kovy's best year was played with a very talented player. imagine what he could do with kopitar...50 goals would be expected.
it is very possible that Waddell gets more for Kovy this year then I think he will and i will support DL 100% for not giving up the farm for a 2 month rental. and it is also very possible that Kovy gets $9.5M/year and i will support DL 100% for not giving him that.
but if he can get kovy for less he should do it. he is the best player available right now and fits a big hole on this team. i would pay Kovy $8M/year without any question. offer him $56M over 7 years and if he gets a better offer so be it.