Thread: Kovalchuk is a NJ Devil. Now, get over it already.

Originally Posted by jt

If you want to watch superstars, that's fine. I want to watch a Cup and superstars don't = a cup unless they're the RIGHT superstars.

Well the two go hand in hand. When was our closest to winning a cup? Did we have a superstar?? yes

Palffy: People can deny it all they want but with him we had a shot. We beat Detorit and 7 games with Colorado. We beat Colorado we win the cup that year. Allison and Deadmarsh. Yes we went 7 games first round against a tough Col team but had they stayed healthy the next season, who knows what would have happened. Superstars on the team? Yep.

Not saying that's what it takes but it is what we lack and TO ME IMO is what we still lack.

just for the sake of argument..y'all know that before Yzerman became the kind of superstar who wins a Cup he had to evolve from the kind of superstar that doesn't? who says that can't happen with Kovy?

Trade Williams + Purcell + Teubert + 1st rd pick for Kovalchuk, can I haz it?!?

Kouleas on The Score, just said he thinks the Kings will trade Quick, Johnson, Frolov, Simmonds and a 1st for Kovalchuk !!! That has got to be the stupidest one yet. He said it in an interview with Puck Daddy. Funny stuff, could you imagine if that happened? Me neither.

Originally Posted by CCM

Kouleas on The Score, just said he thinks the Kings will trade Quick, Johnson, Frolov, Simmonds and a 1st for Kovalchuk !!! That has got to be the stupidest one yet. He said it in an interview with Puck Daddy. Funny stuff, could you imagine if that happened? Me neither.

I would certainly hope DL is smarter than that.

I was just pondering what might be going on in Kovi's head concerning his career.

As far as the KHL, it's a crap shoot. Who knows how that league will turn out with it's huge payroll and no attendance. Only Kovi knows his feelings on that subject.

Regarding the NHL I'm sure Kovi, like the rest of the league is impressed with the Lombardi/Murray GM/Coaching tandem. After having the Kings pay their dues learning how to play defensively this season is seeing the results with next season looking, almost certainly, better.

Kovi never had that in his 8 seasons in Atlanta. A Team that went through emotional distress with respect to tragedy in the ranks. A GM that tried to build an elite team through veterans rather than through the draft.

Kovi saw 5 coaches, including Waddell twice, since beginning there in 2001, try to put players together to create a team that could go far and win. Only once in those 8 years did the team reach the post season only to be eliminated in a 1st round sweep.

Kovi may see the Kings as a means to an end for him both professionally, personally and financially.

Originally Posted by Winsomemore

I was just pondering what might be going on in Kovi's head concerning his career.

As far as the KHL, it's a crap shoot. Who knows how that league will turn out with it's huge payroll and no attendance. Only Kovi knows his feelings on that subject.

Regarding the NHL I'm sure Kovi, like the rest of the league is impressed with the Lombardi/Murray GM/Coaching tandem. After having the Kings pay their dues learning how to play defensively this season is seeing the results with next season looking, almost certainly, better.

Kovi never had that in his 8 seasons in Atlanta. A Team that went through emotional distress with respect to tragedy in the ranks. A GM that tried to build an elite team through veterans rather than through the draft.

Kovi saw 5 coaches, including Waddell twice, since beginning there in 2001, try to put players together to create a team that could go far and win. Only once in those 8 years did the team reach the post season only to be eliminated in a 1st round sweep.

Kovi may see the Kings as a means to an end for him both professionally, personally and financially.

Excluding this season (where both teams are roughly in the same place in the standings, though the Kings a cushion), how exactly are the two franchises different since 2001?

Kings
-4 coaches
-0 playoff appearances
-attempted build through veterans failed, team blown up
-current build of the roster through youth acquired via pitiful on-ice performance
-well positioned to make the playoffs, several game cushion

Thrashers
-5 coaches
-1 playoff appearance (swept)
-team built through adding veteran players over prospects, failed, team blown up
-current system focusing on building through their prospects acquired via pitiful on-ice performance
-in the playoff hunt, little room for error down the stretch

Originally Posted by Iron Duke

Excluding this season (where both teams are roughly in the same place in the standings, though the Kings a cushion), how exactly are the two franchises different since 2001?

Kings
-4 coaches
-0 playoff appearances
-attempted build through veterans failed, team blown up
-current build of the roster through youth acquired via pitiful on-ice performance
-well positioned to make the playoffs, several game cushion

Thrashers
-5 coaches
-1 playoff appearance (swept)
-team built through adding veteran players over prospects, failed, team blown up
-current system focusing on building through their prospects acquired via pitiful on-ice performance
-in the playoff hunt, little room for error down the stretch

not that much different (performance-wise) in the past, but the Kings actually have a stable owner. The Kings aren't moving anytime soon. While I personally think it's unlikely that Atlanta will move, there are a lot of questions about the viability of the Thrashers.

Originally Posted by nayagamj

not that much different (performance-wise) in the past, but the Kings actually have a stable owner. The Kings aren't moving anytime soon. While I personally think it's unlikely that Atlanta will move, there are a lot of questions about the viability of the Thrashers.

And you'll get no argument from me on that point, though he never goes to the games, so he sucks...uhhh, right?