Thread: Kovalchuk is a NJ Devil. Now, get over it already.

Originally Posted by Iron Duke

Yes, agreed, Beach or Skille would be a much more attractive option, IMO, somewhere in that deal.

if i'm Atlanta, i'm calling for - Barker, Beach, 1st. my intention is to make MY team better, not do what 'makes sense because...' and help your ass out of a salary cap issue you yourself created because you couldn't get your paperwork together. so if you want to start dumping salary, it's going to cost you either Jack Skille or another high pick because i think Versteeg, while talented and a good player, is a system success.

i want to win a Stanley Cup too.

and i honestly believe that no matter who Atlanta gets in return from the Kovalchuk deal, that team on it's current trajectory will be in contention for Taylor Hall as well... hell, they may even up a lottery team even if they don't trade him.

ges is your penchant for a contract not being chalk full of pseudo years coming from the stance strictly of the Russian wonder? if I'm DL and have decided the wonder is "the dude", the only way to have him on a winning team would be for a contract of said persuasion...

I still think that Hamill, Colborne, Rask, 2 1st's this year (One a potential lottery pick), and 2 conditional 1st's next year (If Kovalchuk is resigned) is far greater than anyone else could seriously offer.

Originally Posted by Birdman

I still think that Hamill, Colborne, Rask, 2 1st's this year (One a potential lottery pick), and 2 conditional 1st's next year (If Kovalchuk is resigned) is far greater than anyone else could seriously offer.

if that is Boston's offer... i'm taking. hell for the sole purpose of that f***ing dumbass Burke pick alone... almost.

Originally Posted by Birdman

I still think that Hamill, Colborne, Rask, 2 1st's this year (One a potential lottery pick), and 2 conditional 1st's next year (If Kovalchuk is resigned) is far greater than anyone else could seriously offer.

boston can offer up their whole prospect pool if they want. they'll be hard pressed to clear cap space for kovy though.

Originally Posted by gretzky99

i agree we need to save room for doughty, but there will also be contracts coming off the books at the end of next year. i don't have the list in front of me, but i know handzus and his $4M comes off after next year.

It sounds like you're talkking off the cuff. I've done the research in the past (nhlnumbers.com Home) and I'd suggest you do it too so rather than guessing you know for sure.

There are repercussions in signing a guy as expensive as Kovalchuk and I don't know how that could get done, given DL's penchant for good cap management.

i trust DL can manage the cap. i think there is room for one more front line player even after re-signing doughty.

Don't forget that when Schenn makes the team, his cap hit will likely be around $3M, Hickey too.

i think we're in the same boat when it comes to kovy. IF DL thinks he's the right guy, then try and make a move. we have assets and we might as well use them. we're coming into the window of where we need to make the playoffs consistently and make some noise when we get there.

Lecavalier could also be described the way you're describing Kovalchuk and the Lightning seriously regret that deal. They really don't want him at that salary but they can't trade him...and they've got about 10 more yrs of this.

Originally Posted by jt

Lecavalier could also be described the way you're describing Kovalchuk and the Lightning seriously regret that deal. They really don't want him at that salary but they can't trade him...and they've got about 10 more yrs of this.

Of course it is. It is one of those common situations where the fans whine that a team doesn't keep a player. Then after they do get all enthusiastic about signing the guy. Then after the dust settles and the player isn't what they expect (meaning: don't immediate win Cup) they whine management are idiots for signing a guy and create a Cap problem. As a team GM you just can't satisfy everyone...in fact you can't satisfy ANYONE.

As to this situation, if I'm the Kings I stay away from these kinds of "deals".

jom

Originally Posted by Birdman

I still think that Hamill, Colborne, Rask, 2 1st's this year (One a potential lottery pick), and 2 conditional 1st's next year (If Kovalchuk is resigned) is far greater than anyone else could seriously offer.

Would Atlanta trade Kovy to an Eastern Conference Team? I would rather trade him to the West just like Ottawa traded Heatley to the Western Conference

Originally Posted by dyvps

Would Atlanta trade Kovy to an Eastern Conference Team? I would rather trade him to the West just like Ottawa traded Heatley to the Western Conference

For that package? Hell yes.