Thread: Kovalchuk part V, The NHL Strikes Back, NHLPA files Grievance (All Discussion Here )

Prediction:

NHL agrees not to fine NJ. (Still shows NHL as top dog.)
NJ agrees not to dispute. (No Fine. Whee!)
NJ and Grossman reapply with new contract. (about 14y @ 96 with payments prorated to match Hossa's contract as it tapers off.)
IK signs new contract.
Everybody steps back from the brink.

Everyone begins to study the starting bargaining points for the new CBA: such as; $48 mil cap vs a franchise player designation; such as, total contract years limited as a function of a players age; such as each team has a limited number of AAV versus actual average salary contracts.

Dude, he said what Grossman told him to say, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Dominic Lavoie

The issue isn't really about this contract - it's about the CBA in 2012. No reason to fine the Devils - they are just sending a message so these contracts will stop.

Via NY Post: It does not seem likely that circumvention penalties, such as suspensions or hefty fines, $1-5 million for the team and $250G-$1 million for the player, would apply in this case of an initial contract submission voided over a previously-unspecified issue.

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I agree.

If Lou "knew" the deal wasn't going to pass, he wouldn't of told grossman or kovi would he? And if he kovi didn't know, his whole opinon of the org and "sweet uncle lou" would totally change and he would prob have more respect now for Dean and co as our offer is basic and take it or leave it.

Originally Posted by alan19

In hindsight absolutely the wrong thing to say. If there is no problem with the contract, there's nothing wrong with those comments

If you want to make it seem like it isn't about the money (it is) and you believe you're set for the rest of your career in NJ, again, no problem with those comments.

If he believed there was even a small chance this contract would be nullified I bet he would have chosen his words a lot more carefully.

Which begs the question - how pissed is he if Jersey didn't tell him they knew the contract was going to be rejected? They definitely knew before the PC, and if EJ Hradek is to be believed, they knew even before he signed on the dotted line.

Which possibly leads me to rethink my earlier statement about NJ just getting a slap on the wrist. If the NHL told them not to do the deal, they went ahead and did the deal anyway, they may be very tempted to throw the book at them, assuming they win the arbitration.

Originally Posted by DUC620

Prediction:

NHL agrees not to fine NJ. (Still shows NHL as top dog.)
NJ agrees not to dispute. (No Fine. Whee!)
NJ and Grossman reapply with new contract. (about 14y @ 96 with payments prorated to match Hossa's contract as it tapers off.)
IK signs new contract.
Everybody steps back from the brink.

Everyone begins to study the starting bargaining points for the new CBA: such as; $48 mil cap vs a franchise player designation; such as, total contract years limited as a function of a players age; such as each team has a limited number of AAV versus actual average salary contracts.

Agree except that NHLPA will file a grievance. No need to do new contract if arbitrator agrees with players.
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Originally Posted by kingsfan28

And you know this because...

What's the point of having a clause that say the NHL can/may fine a team for messing with the cap if you won't enforce it. It would send a much stronger message to other teams by enforcing it.

Rejecting the contract is a pretty strong message considering this is the NHL we are talking about. If there is any penalty / fine, I see the minimum of $1M, and it is a slim chance IMO

Originally Posted by santiclaws

Which begs the question - how pissed is he if Jersey didn't tell him they knew the contract was going to be rejected? They definitely knew before the PC, and if EJ Hradek is to be believed, they knew even before he signed on the dotted line.

And what if Grossman knew and didn't tell him either?

Like I said, I don't see Kovy a King unless Grossman is fired, and their is no grievance filed.

Originally Posted by DUC620

Prediction:


NJ agrees not to dispute. (No Fine. Whee!)

NJ has no right to dispute, only the NHLPA has the right, which they are expected to exercise.