Thread: An the most popular buyout on Capgeek.com is...[Roberto Luongo Thread]

these contracts may not look as bad if the owners get amnesty written into the next CBA.

... that idea can be spun into appearing as a benefit to both the owners and the NHLPA.


just sayin'

Originally Posted by gradin

This is boring, you go from "not getting much for Luongo" to expecting "an elite player". This sounds like what you'd expect at HF, with people either thinking he is awesome or awful. Then a bunch of meaningless typing than smells a little of a mindless media type desperate to say something that might get some attention. Your drivel may convince a Luongo hater or the typical gas huffing Flames fan, but NHL GM's don't make decision on stupid little tidbits like "being pulled after two losses".

The writing has been on the wall all year, we have 2 great starting goalies and something was going to give this summer. That isn't a bind for Gillis, he will have more than one suitor. A bind is when you are stuck with an awful deal like Scott Gomez and can't trade him. Oh wait, he actually did get traded for a decent young dman.

BTW, Bryz wasn't traded because nobody would give up anything for him for several months. There really isn't a single comparison between the 2 other than being NHL goalies.

And I can say that your retort does nothing but toe the Vancouver fan line and is made up of little else than Canuck romanticism.

Luongo is not the answer to a team gunning for a cup and he's quite expensive to a team just looking to shore up it's goaltending but not compete for the cup. He's a good goalie, just not a great one.

As with all things, time will tell the tale. It's possible Vancouver gets a great bounty for Luongo. I wouldn't bet on it, but it's possible.

Originally Posted by gradin

Originally Posted by UnholyGoalie

I for one don't think Vancouver will get much for Luongo. Unless by much you mean an undesirable contract coming back their way.

Based on what exactly? Ask yourself what Philly had to pay Bryz this summer, and he's a guy who has done nothing of note other than get waived out of Anaheim. Luongo's cap hit isn't an issue and the last few years of his deal likely won't be either. He'll either be good enough to be a starter or retire with his boatload of money.

While it conceivable the Canucks take a contract back, it certainly doesn't mean it's undesirable. Lecavalier would be horrible and it won't happen, but a guy like Malone for example would be just fine. Except I think we'd still get more than that.

It may hurt many fans to hear this, but he is top 3 since the lockout in the NHL. Lots of guys with 1-2 good years, but nobody has excelled for the same duration. Imagine when Quick gets $6M+ this summer: OMG, WORST DEAL EVER!

The reason that he is being trade could be a concern of a prospective team an he has a mighty big contract left. That is what would keep a team from giving up too much.

Personally I think he is a good goalie and has gotten a bad rep in Vancouver. They should get a "decent" return.

If I am an up an coming team, I am not messing with my roster to add Luongo. This would have been a great move for the Canucks to make last year, to the Flyers.

Sounds like a handful of teams will be on his list, and a team like Chicago would be a great fit. They are going to get best value to a team that has most pieces already in place and just needs a #1. Hawks are that type of team. Not sure if they are on the list though.

Originally Posted by UnholyGoalie

And I can say that your retort does nothing but toe the Vancouver fan line and is made up of little else than Canuck romanticism.

Luongo is not the answer to a team gunning for a cup and he's quite expensive to a team just looking to shore up it's goaltending but not compete for the cup. He's a good goalie, just not a great one.

As with all things, time will tell the tale. It's possible Vancouver gets a great bounty for Luongo. I wouldn't bet on it, but it's possible.

Name the 5 goalies teams wanting to win the Cup go after. Hell, name 2 that available.

Originally Posted by shoot2scor

The reason that he is being trade could be a concern of a prospective team an he has a mighty big contract left. That is what would keep a team from giving up too much.

Mighty big how? Cap hit is very manageable. The big money is already paid. The last few years are add on as cap fixers.

Come on kids, teams aren't thinking 5 years ahead they are thinking next year. GM's either win or they are fired.

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As for the Hawks, they'd need to delete Chelsea Dagger from their ipod.

Originally Posted by UnholyGoalie

As with all things, time will tell the tale. It's possible Vancouver gets a great bounty for Luongo. I wouldn't bet on it, but it's possible.

Do you have a "Vote Romney" bumper sticker?

Let's say the Canucks get Luke Schenn and something for Luongo? Or Malone+ out of TB? Or Gudbranson out of FLA?

What is your definition of a "great bounty"? Hell, we got him for washed up Bertuzzi and that pissed off a lot of teams that didn't even know he was in play.

Originally Posted by gradin

We could really use Malone, but the cap space won't be that much after we sign Schneider. (2.5-3M?)

every bit helps. I think the Canucks are in a real good spot this summer to bolster their team. Just tell Gillis not to **** it up!

Originally Posted by gradin

Let's say the Canucks get Luke Schenn and something for Luongo?

I could see Burke doing something along those lines to get Luongo.

Originally Posted by gradin

Name the 5 goalies teams wanting to win the Cup go after. Hell, name 2 that available.

UFA's, none. Pending RFA's/soon to be RFA/FA: Carey Price, Tim Thomas, Mikka Kipprusoff, Tomas Vokoun. Up-and-comers: Schneider, Bernier.

He's hardly the only goalie out there and most of the players I mentioned aren't tied to huge contracts (and if they are, those contracts will be expiring before Luongo's). And really, 5.3 isn't all that manageable. It certainly isn't 2.5.