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    Quote Originally Posted by KHenry14 View Post
    No doubt, part of the trade process would be assurances with Parise and his agent that he's going to sign long term. If he refuses to talk about an extension, you don't make the deal.

    I believe that the Kings would be considered a Cup contender by any free agent. Whether he's want to live here and play here is another question.
    Fair enough. Just thought it was worth mentioning. A few folks put the cart before the horse and just assume that all that needs to be considered is 'what's it gonna cost'? For some players, and I think Zach is one of these, it's not simply where can I make the most money. He can afford to...and will be, very picky. For some reason I have this premonition of him going to Washington. Don't really know why. It remains to be seen...if ZP walks will he follow in Gomez/Gionta's footsteps and never quite be 'that' player...or will he be something special? That's the danger of coveting a player too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Fair enough. Just thought it was worth mentioning. A few folks put the cart before the horse and just assume that all that needs to be considered is 'what's it gonna cost'? For some players, and I think Zach is one of these, it's not simply where can I make the most money. He can afford to...and will be, very picky. For some reason I have this premonition of him going to Washington. Don't really know why. It remains to be seen...if ZP walks will he follow in Gomez/Gionta's footsteps and never quite be 'that' player...or will he be something special? That's the danger of coveting a player too much.
    I'm pretty sure that somewhere between Gomez/Gionta and Sid, the truth lies. And perhaps I'm just an optimist, but I'm inclined to believe it's closer to the latter. That said, the knee injury is a concern and it remains to be seen if that significantly affects his game. I still want him, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHenry14 View Post
    I believe that the Kings would be considered a Cup contender by any free agent.
    I don't agree with that. On the upswing, yes, but a cup contender? Still a year or two away from that. Hard to be a cup contender when you don't make it out of the 1st round.

    That being said, if you're planning on being there for years, the Kings are one of the few teams being built to remain competitive for a long time, and have the flexibility to take a large contract or two (depending on Doughty) plus add in playing with his buddy Dustin.

    But if Parise wants a cup NOW, well, there are more solid options that don't include the Kings.
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    Devils haven't contacted Hitchcock about coaching job - NYPOST.com

    While the coaching position remains vacant and obvious candidate Ken Hitchcock telling The Post last night that the Devils have not contacted him, there are indications perhaps, finally, general manager Lou Lamoriello is working on Zach Parise's contract.
    Parise could become a restricted free agent July 1 if the Devils don't sign him or choose team-elected arbitration, a decision that must be made by Friday. It is expected Lamoriello will at least try to negotiate a one-year deal to avoid arbitration.



    Read more: Devils haven't contacted Hitchcock about coaching job - NYPOST.com
    While not exactly a declaration, that's as close to news as you will get in Lou's world.

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    Is Parise going to make it to arbitration?
    I just don't see any reason why team-elected arbitration isn't the route Lou will take in the next few days with regards to Parise. Protect the asset, figure it out later. He doesn't need an offer sheet from a motivated team forcing his hand.

    The Devils made their bed with Kovalchuk and they will sleep on it. ZP needs to get his health back to get paid and it's just a matter of time before he's no longer a Devil. Meanwhile Lou's gotta deal with the coach vacancy and determine how players will fit into the cap. Getting the most he can for Parise will come later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riofan View Post
    I just don't see any reason why team-elected arbitration isn't the route Lou will take in the next few days with regards to Parise. Protect the asset, figure it out later. He doesn't need an offer sheet from a motivated team forcing his hand.

    The Devils made their bed with Kovalchuk and they will sleep on it. JP needs to get his health back to get paid and it's just a matter of time before he's no longer a Devil. Meanwhile Lou's gotta deal with the coach vacancy and determine how players will fit into the cap. Getting the most he can for Parise will come later.
    Are you talking about his dad? Don't rule out Lou working out a one year offer and next offseason(when a lot of money comes off the books) seeing if they can work something out long term. Arbitration(and the bad feelings that usually stem from the process) seems to be the last option right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnholyGoalie View Post
    I don't agree with that. On the upswing, yes, but a cup contender? Still a year or two away from that. Hard to be a cup contender when you don't make it out of the 1st round.

    That being said, if you're planning on being there for years, the Kings are one of the few teams being built to remain competitive for a long time, and have the flexibility to take a large contract or two (depending on Doughty) plus add in playing with his buddy Dustin.

    But if Parise wants a cup NOW, well, there are more solid options that don't include the Kings.
    I should have been a bit more specific, team on the upswing with potential to be a contender soon is more accurate.

    Besides Parise, the Devils need to deal with their aging HOF Goalie too. I don't know if they have someone in the pipeline to replace Brodeur, but I know a team that does.

    One wonders how much location means to some of these FA's. To some, it's just who's going to pay the most. But every now and then you find guys who want to play in a specific location or with certain people (see Lebron). Since ZP is going to get paid well no matter where he signs, intagibles may become important to him. So why not play in a location where you don't have to shovel your driveway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Agreed. There will be no hometown discount, and, if anything, I am pretty sure Parise is going to try to hold Lou up.

    I don't see him staying in a Devils uniform and it's pretty much a matter of when Lou pulls the trigger. I cling to my beliefs that Zach is never going to be the player he can be somewhere else, as a Devil. It makes sense for all parties to get the best they can get at this point. Before you go selling the farm Kings fans, Zach had the first real serious injury of his career last year and it was enough to pretty much end the season for him. It was a major knee injury and it remains to be seen how much of an impact that is going to have on him going forward. As a little speedster that injury may be more troublesome than any of us know. Add to that questions of character(nothing proven but when you hear it enough you have to at least keep it in mind) and the fact that he is going to want a 'retirement contract' are you really going to want to roll the dice that much? I know you guys think Parise is the be all and end all but he is more of a Gomez/Gionta than a Sid the Kid. I think your money is better spent elsewhere.

    Oh, and he has been negated/disappeared in the Playoffs at every opportunity.
    OK, then, Parse for Parise, straight up. That way, Jersey only loses an "i" and gains a ton of cap space. I think that's fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santiclaws View Post
    OK, then, Parse for Parise, straight up. That way, Jersey only loses an "i" and gains a ton of cap space. I think that's fair.
    hurm...Howabout NO.(too bad there ain't no Dr.Evil smilies)

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    EJ said today on NHL Live that NJ has elected for arbitration. I'm not that familiar with the rules but doesn't that usually just mean a 1 or 2 year contract? If so no reason they can't sign him long term after that contract and make it work with the cap. I would love to see the Kings find a way to get him but I don't see it happening.

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