May 1st, 2009, 09:56 PM #91
Originally Posted by Cross Traffic
i don't disagree with what he said, but the fact remains that it was interference and the hit caused an injury.
we see dozens of inadvertent blood drawing high sticks all th time.
May 1st, 2009, 11:04 PM #92
But the increased punishment has already been inflicted. Last year, they can't call a 5 minute major on that play. Period.
Originally Posted by gescom
Look, it's not like taking Brown out of the line-up is going to massively hurt the Ducks one little bit - it won't. That's why I think the NHL will hand out a suspension on this.
I just don't think this case warrants it. It's certainly not a blantant act like the other incidents we've seen - which conversely all seemed to have occured in the third periods were the games were already decided for the most part. This was a a borderline hard hockey play.
And visor lovers take notice - the blood on the ice was the result of the visor itself, not the hit.
May 1st, 2009, 11:29 PM #93
Originally Posted by KingsFan4Ever
May 2nd, 2009, 12:47 AM #94
Is it the referee's fault that the NHL changed the rule where a major for interference is now allowed? What do last year's rules have to do with today's situation?
Originally Posted by dgrycan
I will agree it's not the worst hit ever. While many cheap shots do happen late in games or when the outcomes have often been decided, that's not always the case. The Brashear hit was in the 1st period of game 6 and in this case I think the hit was a pure intimidation move by the Ducks. Detroit's not known for playing a tough physical style of hockey, the Ducks are, and Brown saw a chance to lay a big hit on an unsuspecting player. Brown was trying to send a message early on in the game about the style the Ducks are going to be looking to play in the series.
However, I think that's a big gamble for the Ducks. Detroit isn't the type of team to get caught up in the retaliation game, although the fight by Ericsson to take Perry off tonight was a great move. If the Ducks keep playing their physical game which leads them to take penalties, Detroit is the team that can make them pay on the power play. That's where San Jose failed. The Sharks scored a large number of their goals in the regular season on the power play and then when Anaheim went to the box a ton in the 1st round, the Sharks didn't make them pay enough for it. That's a dangerous game to get in with the Red Wings.
May 2nd, 2009, 12:56 AM #95
Actually, if I am correct, in an incident where excessive harm is caused by interference, a 5 minute major penalty can be assessed to the guilty player. It is then on the discretion of the officiating crew to determine if a further penalty is needed. From there the call is reviewed by Toronto to deem if anything else needs to take place
May 2nd, 2009, 01:09 AM #96
I just don't see the Ducks to be scary for Detroit. They were rusty today and didn't play how Detroit usually plays. Plus on top of that Hossa was pretty invincible the whole game and they still won. Idk where alll this panic of Ducks winning the cup is coming from. We all knew San Jose would choke and JT would have another useless postseason it just happened to be against the Ducks. Ducks take an excessive amount of penalties and Detroit will rip them apart because of it. Detroit in 6 (maybe even 5) I just hope detroit loses to the Canucks or Blackhawks in the western conference finals. I wanna see a capitals/blackhawks stanley cup final(hawks pens would be nice also)
Originally Posted by Halfwall
May 2nd, 2009, 08:36 AM #97
Dana, I'm not sure what you're conflicted about here.
Originally Posted by Dana
My point was that, on the ice, the referee did not rule the hit as a charge, or an elbow - it was ruled as a late hit, and that's interference in the rule book.
Last year in the NHL, there would be no way for these officials to hand out a 5:00 major penalty for this act, so potentially the justification of a suspension may be greater since the only penalty received by the player was a two minute penalty.
Now, since the NHL allows a greater on-ice penalty (which comes with its own built in mechanics, like penalties for accumulating game misconducts, which he got), perhaps the off-ice penalties can be weathered somewhat.
Brown basically got caught for excessive speeding instead of just speeding, and the mark is going on his license regardless. So in essense he's already paid a higher price than the NHL would have allowed last year.
May 2nd, 2009, 02:14 PM #98
What is all this panic you are referring too? If you read my post it started with "I wish..." words not usually uttered when panicked. Believe me, I would much rather see the Wings over Ducks -- being deep in enemy territory and all...Detroit could have easily lost that game Ducks hit the pipe a couple of times. Not to mention the Wings are quite thin on the blue line. This is not a cakewalk.
Originally Posted by KingsFan4Ever
May 2nd, 2009, 03:33 PM #99
Looks like Brown's not getting a suspension after all.
That's horse **** in my opinion. Don't care if he already got his major and GM, you want the players to take your stance on taking head shots out of the game? You have to give a suspension for that hit.
Brashear got a game for yapping during warmups, and got 5 more for his hit that broke Betts's face (granted his looked more like he used his elbows). Now Brown throws a late hit to a players head when he's not looking and not even a game??
****, go for it fellas. As long as you keep the elbows tucked in, chase down any guy on the ice 6 inches shorter than you, let him take two strides after a pass and nail him right in the noggin. The NHL doesn't care as long as all the guy needs is some stitches. If you don't crack his skull, you're right back in the next night!!
Way to go Colin Campbell.
May 2nd, 2009, 05:35 PM #100
my uncle walked by the tv during the vs broadcast when they were showing the brashear hit and then the brown hit and he couldn't believe how vicious the hits were. then i told him today that the first player received a suspension while the second player did not, and he was ENRAGED. "what kind of message does that send? just run around and hit whoever you want then, right?" and this is somebody who knows nothing about the sport and doesn't know the ducks from the wings. totally objective.
i really can't believe no suspension came of it. all the guys on vs seemed so sure brown would be done for the series so i'm curious to see what they'll say tonight.