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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    I actually don't expect Armageddon to occur during the rest of my lifetime in any sport.
    They will still miss games though
    That's like saying the Canadiens were going to score against the Kings cuz they always have before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
    That's like saying the Canadiens were going to score against the Kings cuz they always have before.
    I may not know it, but I'd be willing to wager on it at the correct odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    At some point they're going to have to do something about the cap floor, revenue sharing, and relocation or the owners themselves might split.
    Why? The owners got the player to agree about taking less of the pie than they did before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
    That's like saying the Canadiens were going to score against the Kings cuz they always have before.
    This, and its 10 years out. When he was asked about Expansion, Bettman didn't totally slam the door, he left it slightly cracked. If they can get an average price for 2 teams of around $350M (And a team in the secondary market of Toronto could be well north of that, maybe as much as $1B with a chunk of it going to Toronto directly) you would expect the teams to split that 30 ways and putting a cool $10 to $20M a piece into their pockets.

    Yes, there are other teams in trouble that could probably warrant a move (Florida) but I bet that would go to the team that loses out on the 2 expansion teams.
    at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    Why? The owners got the player to agree about taking less of the pie than they did before.
    We already saw teams trade for unpayable cap hits in the last CBA (Tim Thomas), you don't think the pressure on the bottom market teams is going to get worse in this CBA? Now that they've eliminated the back diving deals there's going to be less avenues for teams to stay cap floor compliant when they don't have the operating cash. The big market teams are going to have to start tossing some bones if they want to keep the united front against the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    We already saw teams trade for unpayable cap hits in the last CBA (Tim Thomas), you don't think the pressure on the bottom market teams is going to get worse in this CBA? Now that they've eliminated the back diving deals there's going to be less avenues for teams to stay cap floor compliant when they don't have the operating cash. The big market teams are going to have to start tossing some bones if they want to keep the united front against the players.
    There is more revenue sharing in this CBA than the past one, and each team gets a cut of the Canadian TV Contract Pie.
    at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    There is more revenue sharing in this CBA than the past one, and each team gets a cut of the Canadian TV Contract Pie.
    True Canadian tv contract pie will be very helpful for those teams. I thought it was weighted though towards the Canadian teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    True Canadian tv contract pie will be very helpful for those teams. I thought it was weighted though towards the Canadian teams?
    Sounds like all the teams are getting about $5M.
    at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogey View Post
    Don't some baseball players make ~$70M per year?
    Pretty damn close

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    So I wanted to put in a little thought here after what Bob had to say on TSN last night:

    Here's the History of the cap from implementation to 2011-12:

    The NHL Salary Cap from 2005 to 2012

    If you assume 4% revenue growth (The NHL Average over the course of the last agreement) beyond next season because both TV deals are locked in now until 2021, it would look like this:

    Year (End) Cap (In M)
    2013 $70.00
    2014 $64.30
    2015 $71.10
    2016 $74.10
    2017 $77.22
    2018 $80.48
    2019 $83.87
    2020 $87.41
    2021 $91.09
    2022 $94.94

    The players share is already calculated in these numbers, so arguing that it won't grow at 4% is irrelevant. Sure, it could be flat a season or two, but I don't expect it to be.

    In the Short Term, we've got $15M in cap space this summer to spend on 2 Top 6 D and some forwards, one of which could possibly be a scorer.

    We're in fantastic shape beyond that, with Quick/Brown/Carter/Richards/Doughty/Voynov locked up long term, and Kopitar likely to get a raise long before his deal comes up in 2017.
    I say we let Willie Mitchell walk and go "all in" on the Dion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kubrick View Post
    I say we let Willie Mitchell walk and go "all in" on the Dion.
    That would be hilarious if we signed him. My daughters a Leafs fan mainly because of Bozak and Dion (her two all time favorites) plus the fact when she was 5 or 6 she would watch hockey with me and the Leafs or Rangers were the teams I would watch at 7pm and she could stay awake.

    Now she would be torn if he signed with LA.

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