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    Quote Originally Posted by xcheck View Post
    There is one vantage point showing Thornton pulling back and using his leg to trip Orpik. Don't know if that was intentional or not. Crazy things happen in those scrums. We all remember Kopi breaking his leg because somebody leaned on him too hard and the leg had nowhere to go so it snapped.

    This is a reaction to Orpik being carted off on a stretcher. If Orpik skates off, Thornton gets 2 for roughing and this discussion (if there would even be a discussion) wouldn't go past one page.
    That, in a nutshell, is what I'm saying. Just look at the outrage on HF. It's eye roll worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShow? View Post
    Doesn't prove anything except Chase and that reasoning is idiotic. Slew foot a guy, then KO him while he's flat on his back in no way compares to the average NHL scrum. End of story. The injury was a direct result of suspend-able actions. He's not getting suspended for the slew foot. It's everything after.
    He would not be suspended if Orpik didn't have a glass jaw. It's not like they were haymakers. It's absolutely silly to think otherwise.

    And I repeat. I'm not saying Thornton doesn't deserve to be suspended.

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    Yeah, players get blindly jumped and taken down to the ice while getting pummeled every night in the NHL.

    No big deal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudfisher View Post
    Reports of James Neal getting suspended 5 games for his Knee to Marchand's head.
    Confirmed per NHL Gamecenter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti View Post
    My point is that there are many sucker punches that don't get called out because there wasn't an injury. Look at most scrums. You'll find some guys taking shots. I find it very hard to believe that most people would be this angry if no injury came of the incident. We probably wouldn't even be talking about it right now. And your suggestion of running him is something that could result in an injury too.
    I don't dissagree with you here. But I happen to thnk pulling a guy backwards, slamming him to the ice and then punching him while he can't defend himself is worse than your average sucker punch thrown in a scrum. I think it is pretty high up there in cheap shot dept. Even if there was no injury I think it was a lowlife scumbag move.

    As for a possible injury resulting in a injury if you run a guy, sure it is possible, but an injury can result from any play involving contact. If you are clean in running a guy then there is no problem.

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    LOL btw the love affair with crosby continues.. clipped skates!

    Later in the first period, Marchand clipped skates with Penguins captain Sidney Crosby while playing the puck. He fell and lay on his side. Neal glided at Marchand as the play went up ice, altered his angle slightly, put his left knee straight into Marchand's head – and never looked back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NastiMarvasti View Post
    He would not be suspended if Orpik didn't have a glass jaw. It's not like they were haymakers. It's absolutely silly to think otherwise.

    And I repeat. I'm not saying Thornton doesn't deserve to be suspended.
    The bolded, right there, is bull****. You don't blame a guy for getting knocked out. You blame the guy throwing the punches. Whether or not you realize it, you're trying to take blame away from Thornton.

    ALL responsibility is on the Thornton here. Period.



    And explain to me again how the slewfoot to take him down when he's unsuspecting and otherwise engaged doesn't matter...
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    Hipcheck posted a link to a youtube video previously:



    At the end are some good slow motion recaps of each incident.

    At about 6:44 is the Thornton/Orpik stretcher incident. It's iffy to me to say Thornton extended his leg behind Orpik's for a takedown. The case could be make he did that for balance, since it seemed like he went in there with the intent of taking Orpik down. But what I noticed in the incident is I don't think Orpik's injuries had anything to do with the shots to the face/head. The view of the incident I just mentioned shows that when Orpik goes down, right after Thornton's first swing, Thornton drops a knee and it lands right on Orpik's upper body (doesn't look like the knee is intentional, just Thornton going down to the knee for better leverage). This is when it looks to me like Orpik really cries uncle. Coupled with earlier footage of the trainers on the ice with Orpik (look at 2:23 or so), and I think it might have been the knee that did most, if not all, of the damage. The trainer is trying to pinpoint the source of the pain, it seems...and he's probing Orpik's upper back between his shoulder blades. Not his neck. I also noted it looks like Orpik never lost consciousness, so I don't really think it's a case of a "glass jaw". I think Thornton's knee dropped on Orpik's ribs at an awkward angle, and may have done anything from the equivalent of a strain, to dislocation of a rib (or 2 or 3) to even breaking some ribs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishMonger View Post
    The bolded, right there, is bull****. You don't blame a guy for getting knocked out. You blame the guy throwing the punches. Whether or not you realize it, you're trying to take blame away from Thornton.

    ALL responsibility is on the Thornton here. Period.



    And explain to me again how the slewfoot to take him down when he's unsuspecting and otherwise engaged doesn't matter...
    I'm not blaming Orpik. Are you telling me you haven't seen harder punches result in nothing? Maybe it's a little insensitive of me to say that but I'm just calling it like it is. Is it right that if it was a guy who had a harder chin, Thornton likely wouldn't be suspended? It's the act that matters. Not the result. And I'm not taking blame away from Thornton. It's the pitchfork yielding masses who pick and choose what to get worked up over that annoy me. Yes, blame Thornton for a BS move. But then also blame countless other players for incidents that don't result in an injury. That's all I'm saying. I don't think it's that hard to grasp. And the only thing I've said about the slewfoot is that I didn't see it because I only saw the replay once or twice and not even the angle that shows the slewfoot. I don't know where you're getting that I don't think it matters. For the hundredth time, I'm not defending Thornton.
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