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Thread: Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with Philadelphia. 14 years/$110M. Predators Match!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    4 years base salary 1 million, 13 million guaranteed per season....Sorry but I'm signing that no matter what.
    I think most people would. Bottom line, the game is a business and when somebody hands you $100 million, you don't say "no, thanks."

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    So it works out to $80M over the first 6 years, and then $30M over the final 8 years...does the NHL even validate that contract? How do you allow them to pay out 73% of value over the first 43% of the contract?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyers West View Post
    1) Nashville does not match, Weber is a Flyer for life
    2) Nashville receives the 4 first-round picks
    3) Nashville trades back some of those picks to Philadelphia in exchange for roster players

    This would essentially mean Weber was knowingly traded for picks and players, BUT it guarantees a long-term signing with Philly.

    This scenario is what most people here are saying will happen. The question becomes: who does we give up in this trade-back? To me, Couturier is our one untouchable player. I'd give up a Schenn, Read, Voracek, Meszaros (not ALL of them, obviously) ... so we'll see.

    I'll report back if anything else pops up.
    That seems incredibly far fetched to me. Bordering on ludicrous. I'm sure they'll use some of those draft picks to get roster players if they choose not to match, but to have them agree to this after asking for Schenn, Couturier and more in a trade seems unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pucker25 View Post
    So it works out to $80M over the first 6 years, and then $30M over the final 8 years...does the NHL even validate that contract? How do you allow them to pay out 73% of value over the first 43% of the contract?
    I had the thought a little while ago that the NHL could turn this offer sheet into a battle ground in the labor talks. If the league were to veto this deal I have to believe that it would be viewed as an act of war by the union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pucker25 View Post
    So it works out to $80M over the first 6 years, and then $30M over the final 8 years...does the NHL even validate that contract? How do you allow them to pay out 73% of value over the first 43% of the contract?
    Yeah, per Dreger we're looking at:
    14 mil
    14 mil
    14 mil
    14 mil
    12 mil
    12 mil
    6 mil
    6 mil
    6 mil
    6 mil
    3 mil
    1 mil
    1 mil
    1 mil

    What was the original "tail" on the Kovy contract again? This isn't nearly as ridiculous as that one was when it got rejected, but it's pushing the envelope again, even more so than Parise and Suter, whose last three years are at 2, 1, and 1 mil.

    As a contrast, the last 3 years of Quick's deal average 3 mil per year. Mike Richards' deal drops down to 3 mil. Carter drops down to 2 mil.

    I know Jersey had to change the Kovy deal to raise the value up again the last two years. I wonder what they'll say about this one...
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    Not sure it was noted previously but per Burnside

    Under terms of the CBA, the Predators cannot trade Weber for a calendar year after matching the offer sheet and a year from now when Weber would have become an unrestricted free agent, a no-move, no-trade clause kicks in.
    NHL: Nashville Predators have clear choice on Shea Weber offer sheet - ESPN

    Why on earth would philly agree to that? Oh wait its philly

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    IMO, you get what you want out of Homer player wise, or you take the picks. Weber's gotta go.

    Lombardi's Blueprint is the way to go. They've got the goaltending thing handled. They HAD the defensive thing handled, but losing one and now possibly both of your top pairing, minute eating tandem really throws a wrench in things. You either blow it up, or trade Weber and try and start anew on the fly.

    They missed their competitive window, mostly because they didn't get a long term solution down the middle. Not just one top flight center, they truly need to get 2.
    at the draft party a couple of years ago, and under a considerable haze, i heard Birdman yell out the following (about 4 or 5 times, i think) - "don't marry yourselves to players!" he went on to reiterate that idea more than once on the boards, and i believe it to be absolutely sage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    IMO, you get what you want out of Homer player wise, or you take the picks. Weber's gotta go.

    Lombardi's Blueprint is the way to go. They've got the goaltending thing handled. They HAD the defensive thing handled, but losing one and now possibly both of your top pairing, minute eating tandem really throws a wrench in things. You either blow it up, or trade Weber and try and start anew on the fly.

    They missed their competitive window, mostly because they didn't get a long term solution down the middle. Not just one top flight center, they truly need to get 2.
    Once a player has signed an offer sheet, he cannot be traded by his current club.

    Nashville has two choices:

    1) Let Weber go and take the four 1st round picks,

    Or

    2) Match the contract. After one year Nashville would have the ability to trade Weber to any team in the NHL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGS17 View Post
    Once a player has signed an offer sheet, he cannot be traded by his current club.

    Nashville has two choices:

    1) Let Weber go and take the four 1st round picks,

    Or

    2) Match the contract. After one year Nashville would have the ability to trade Weber to any team in the NHL.
    There's a NTC clause in the contract too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmytheKing View Post
    There's a NTC clause in the contract too.
    The CBA says that the only terms that must be matched are the money and the distribution thereof.

    If Nashville matches, Weber has no NTC in his contract.
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