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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseydevil View Post
    Not when they trade Weber to Toronto for a A$$load of picks/players.
    or to us straight up for Doughty and his mountain of potential?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygokings! View Post
    And nuts they did go...
    7.5? 1 year. holy ****.

    Nashville is in DEEP **** next off season...

    UFA:
    Rinne
    Suter
    Tootoo

    RFA:
    Weber
    Kostitsyn
    Wilson
    Blum
    Geoffrion
    O'Reilly
    Lindback
    Teemu Laakso



    pshhhhht have fun.
    Yeah, this is a big F U to the smaller market teams that can't spend to the cap. Folks on the Nashville boards are saying Weber was offered $7.5M on a long term deal and that he didn't sign it because he wants to see what the Preds do with Rinne and Suter.

    I suppose he was worried that if he signed that deal he might be in Nashville all by his lonesome.

    This arbitration award makes you wonder what his agent will be asking for next season for a long term deal.

    Revenue sharing and length of contracts are going to be big topics during the next CBA negotiations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGS17 View Post
    Yeah, this is a big F U to the smaller market teams that can't spend to the cap. Folks on the Nashville boards are saying Weber was offered $7.5M on a long term deal and that he didn't sign it because he wants to see what the Preds do with Rinne and Suter.

    I suppose he was worried that if he signed that deal he might be in Nashville all by his lonesome.

    This arbitration award makes you wonder what his agent will be asking for next season for a long term deal.

    Revenue sharing and length of contracts are going to be big topics during the next CBA negotiations.

    I think we are going to see a length cap like we do monetary cap next CBA. With the amount of long contracts that are falling completely flat on their faces recently...be it for the players or the teams...it's, I feel, a given. Hell I wouldn't mind if they did something like...5-6 year length limit and you are allowed to go over that with only a few players...like those pretty much deemed franchise players.


    I honestly don't like the odds of a non lockout season. There is a LOT of talking points.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygokings! View Post
    His point is, and I think it's a valid one. Is that arbitration is supposed to be a decidedly fair amount for both parties involved. Yea Weber asking 8.5 was damn high...but holy **** asking 4.5 from the preds side. That's an EXTREME lowball. I mean yea 8.5 is high....but in the end they were only a mil off...and Nash management was...what....3 and a half off?

    I think it may have set a poor tone to come in and say 4.5. I think if you come in and say 6..or 5.5. It at least looks like you give a ****..that 4.5 was probably the equivalent of a slap in the mouth to Weber and his agent.
    I just don't see how it being that big a deal when the two sides were already negotiating around a $6.5M-$7.5M contract. If Poile had been offering that all summer and maintained that into the arbitration, ok, I can see there being some hurt feelings, but this was all just part of the process.

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    Well...also..I guess if the preds can get their feet moving on extending Suter and Rinne...they could essentially get an extension on Weber this season as well..


    but Nashville tends to drag their feet on A LOT of contractual things it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Duke View Post
    I just don't see how it being that big a deal when the two sides were already negotiating around a $6.5M-$7.5M contract. If Poile had been offering that all summer and maintained that into the arbitration, ok, I can see there being some hurt feelings, but this was all just part of the process.
    yea I feel ya. My perspective on it, if I am the arbitrator...you know going in these guys have been discussing contracts for a while. He was probably aware of previous offers made, in the ball park of 6-7.5 mil....Weber walks in goes a mil higher...you're thinkin alright this guy is just pumping it up a touch. Then Nashville walks in and throws a massive 12-6er at you with 4.5 which is nearly 3 mil of the median of prior discussions...all of a sudden in my mind it looks like Nashville is trying to A) play you or B) play Shea Weber. Either way, and I could be COMPLETELY off base with this...arbitrators are human beings, and looking at all the history of the negotiations up until this point..and then seeing Nashville plop down that offer...I wouldn't be siding with Nashville either.

    Which maybe is why the Arbitrator went high end of prior negotiations with the 7.5

    but again this is all just my own speculative observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGS17 View Post
    Yeah, this is a big F U to the smaller market teams that can't spend to the cap. Folks on the Nashville boards are saying Weber was offered $7.5M on a long term deal and that he didn't sign it because he wants to see what the Preds do with Rinne and Suter.

    I suppose he was worried that if he signed that deal he might be in Nashville all by his lonesome.

    This arbitration award makes you wonder what his agent will be asking for next season for a long term deal.

    Revenue sharing and length of contracts are going to be big topics during the next CBA negotiations.
    Pretty much all this. I should note, based on what Poile has said, that they will not be a cap floor team. He has expressed that they will spend up to around the mid point of the cap, and more than last season...so somewhere in the $54M-$56M range, assuming the desired players are available.

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    Weber was awarded a one-year contract worth $7.5 million.

    Does this mean DD will demand more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueline View Post
    Weber was awarded a one-year contract worth $7.5 million.

    Does this mean DD will demand more?
    i don't think so, weren't drew's demands skirting 7?

    but like someone said (maybe quisp) on jftc, the signing price for ALL d-men just went up.

    i do think dd is getting more as a result of the sheaweber deal. more than what was initially offered by the kings.

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    Pretty funny quote on this.

    "Shea, by this award, certainly got recognized as one of the top, if not the best defenseman in all of the National Hockey League," Poile said in a conference call Wednesday shortly after the arbitrator's ruling.
    "Uh. . .that's also why we said to the arbitrator that he should only get 4.75 million a year."
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