Thread: Betemit for Proctor done

Solid deal. I like it.

Originally Posted by jbruin152

No kidding. Where the hell did that come from?

He stopped chasing pitches in the dirt and trying to pull everything. Then he was getting ahead in counts, drawing walks and became a tougher out. When I watch him in Seattle now, I see him chasing bad pitches again.

It was a fun year though. I remember listening to Finley's grand slam in the Rose Bowl tailgating area at the XTRA booth. We missed the first 5-10 minutes of the first quarter just to stick around.

I was holed up by the computer on a beautiful Saturday afternoon listening to GameDay Audio.

Originally Posted by Italian Seafood

I was holed up by the computer on a beautiful Saturday afternoon listening to GameDay Audio.

I was choking on my big cup of Coke, getting patted (or rather yet slapped) in the back repeatedly by fans. I managed to keep said cup of Coke in tact for the most part but it was wild.
I actually had the rally cap on, but mainly as a joke. Unlike certain laughable Yankee fans shown in the HBO special "Nine innings from Ground Zero", I don't really believe in the spirits that my inside out hat can awaken late in a ball game. Still, good times.
Since 2004, I've cheered Steve Finley, even when he was a Giant.

bad trade imo

Originally Posted by jbruin152

No kidding. Where the hell did that come from?

It was a fun year though. I remember listening to Finley's grand slam in the Rose Bowl tailgating area at the XTRA booth. We missed the first 5-10 minutes of the first quarter just to stick around.

I was there too. I should have tailgated the entire game instead of watching my Aztecs lose.. again.. to the Bruins.

Trade is a wash. Betemit is Ramon Martinez with a little more power. Proctor is a workhorse with a low ceiling. He should be effective in the 6/7th innings (which will be needed the way the starters are dropping). Hopefully a Tsao return and a Meloan call up are not too far away. Considering what the Dodgers gave up for Betemit (Aybar/Baez) it's a pretty solid deal. Especially considering they didn't give up much of Baez (Joel Guzman?).

Originally Posted by jbruin152

No, he shouldn't have. He had a phenomenal year, but Bonds' season was much better--he set the single-season OBP (.609!!) and OPS (1.422!!!!) record that year.

Beltre 2004
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS BA
156 598 104 200 32 0 48 121 53 87 7 2 .334

Bonds 2004
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS BA
147 373 129 135 27 3 45 101 232 41 6 1 .362


I still give it to Beltre. His team won the division and he was Mr Clutch all season long.

Originally Posted by ibleedkngs

I still give it to Beltre. His team won the division and he was Mr Clutch all season long.

As mentioned before, Bonds set the single-season OBP and OPS records. He also had the most walks (232!!) in a season ever that year.

Bonds had 225 less official at-bats than Beltre that year and still was up there with him in almost all of the totals categories. Their stats aren't even comparable if you count the percentages that matter.

Splits BA/OBP/SLG
Bonds .362/.609/.812
Beltre .334/.388/.629

Beltre had a phenomenal year, but Bonds blew away everyone that year and probably had the 2nd or 3rd greatest offensive season in MLB history (competing only with himself in 2001 or 2002).

I bet Proctor's glad to get away from Torre. He was on pace for about 483 innings pitched by the end of the season.