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Thread: Dan Cloutier or Jason Schmidt??

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    Is there any way the Kings can rotate FIVE good goaltenders, instead of just having one LOUSY one?????

    Just askin'......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cup B4 I Die View Post
    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/playe...-Schmidt.shtml

    Schmidt not injury proned?? Check out the DL section at the link above. On the DL twice in the last 3 years, not including this years' injury.

    Seems like a lot of money for a guy who has a history of shoulder problems.
    I'll take his 2 DL stints considering over the past 5 years, he's averaged 200 IP and 200 K's per year. The guy's a workhorse. It's just an unfortunate situation.

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    Cloutier and it's not even close.

    Even if Schmidt never pitches again at least the Dodgers get to collect insurance and recover a lot of money from his contract. If Schmidt does come back he could be effective. If he doesn't it's really not that big of a deal.

    Cloutier isn't hurt and was never good. Unfortunately for the Kings he is healthy. Now the Kings have to eat his contract and watch him suck. At least a healthy Schmidt deserved the contract he signed. A healthy Cloutier shouldn't even be in the NHL.

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    Cloutier sucks more than a Hoover...Dirt Devil...and Shop Vac... combined...

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    I'm surprised that nobody was comparing this to the Modry signing...which might be as bad or slightly worse than Schmidt's...yet not as bad as Beachball's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lath19
    Even if Schmidt never pitches again at least the Dodgers get to collect insurance and recover a lot of money from his contract. If Schmidt does come back he could be effective. If he doesn't it's really not that big of a deal.
    Not to mention THERE IS NO CAP IN BASEBALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cup B4 I Die View Post
    Which signing is worse?

    Tough call, i'm going with Schmidt.
    A starting pitcher usually starts 1 out of 5 games.

    A starting goalie usually starts 4 out of 5 games, so you can appreciate his suckiness much more often.

    The worse signing is Cloutier by a mile.

    (but basically, I've lost touch with the Dodgers over the past 4 - 5 years - is Schmidt that bad? I'm still upset that Green and Gagne are gone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butch 19 View Post
    A starting pitcher usually starts 1 out of 5 games.

    A starting goalie usually starts 4 out of 5 games, so you can appreciate his suckiness much more often.

    The worse signing is Cloutier by a mile.

    (but basically, I've lost touch with the Dodgers over the past 4 - 5 years - is Schmidt that bad? I'm still upset that Green and Gagne are gone)
    He went from throwing 96-97 mph a couple years back to throwing 88-90 mph. Somethings not right.

    Seems like a risky signing for a guy with a history of shoulder problems.

    I'm by no means saying Cloutier is much better. Being the optomistic King fan that I am, i'm hoping he's got something left. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cup B4 I Die View Post
    Which signing is worse?

    Tough call, i'm going with Schmidt. Schmidt may never be the same, and may be throwing 90 MPH for the rest of his career. Feels like Kevin Brown all over again.
    Another Kevin Brown wouldn't be so bad. He was here for 5 years, had 3 very good seasons (18 wins and #2 in innings pitched in 99, led the lead in ERA and WHIP in 2000, 2nd in the league in ERA in 03), one very good half season before injury (10-4, 2.65), and one season pretty much lost to an injury.

    3.5/5 seasons being pretty dominant isn't bad. Schmidt would need to be great the next two years to match that ratio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frolov24 View Post
    Another Kevin Brown wouldn't be so bad. He was here for 5 years, had 3 very good seasons (18 wins and #2 in innings pitched in 99, led the lead in ERA and WHIP in 2000, 2nd in the league in ERA in 03), one very good half season before injury (10-4, 2.65), and one season pretty much lost to an injury.

    3.5/5 seasons being pretty dominant isn't bad. Schmidt would need to be great the next two years to match that ratio.
    Yea, Brown's performance in Blue was actually pretty good. It was more that we pretty much outbidded ourselves that made the contract so stupid. But then again that was the beginning of the retarded pitcher contracts(Mike Hampton, etc.)

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