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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
    It all depends on where the batters end up in the lineup as far as I'm concerned. If Jonest is expected to the the focal point of the offense and provide protection then I think his numbers may suffer. They should improve over 07 but pale in comparison to 05/06 and also fall short of what an $18.2 million dollar a year player should do.

    In Anaheim Hunter will more than likely bat 3rd in front of Vladamir Guerrero and hopefully that will help him improve.
    Maybe, but Morneau and Mauer weren't exactly sloutches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cup B4 I Die View Post
    It's going to take a lot more than signing AJ to win playoff games. And the $$ saved in signing Rowand would off-set AJ's 'big bat' IMO.
    I agree on the first part, but I don't think adding Rowand would have made us any better than signing Pierre did. You'd still be putting all our offensive eggs in a soon-to-retire Kent, and the kids.

    With Jones, you give some reliable, much-needed protection to Kent, and take the full offensive responsibility off of Martin, Loney and Ethier's back. And you can count on the guy to play every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Duke View Post
    Maybe, but Morneau and Mauer weren't exactly sloutches.
    Exactly, OP's argument that where Hunter is in the lineup with regards to his BA makes zero sense.

    Batting behind Vlad isn't going to all of a sudden make him more of a contact hitter. He's never been a contact hitter and never will be. Like Iron Duke mentioned, Hunter had Justin Morneau and Joe Mauer around him in the lineup. Absolutely superb hitters in their own right. The argument doesn't make any sense. Just like bringing up Hunter was a contact hitter didn't make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    Or be benched. Or be traded. Or be bought out. Or be sent to Las Vegas.
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    I'll post up Keith Law's take here as well

    In a vacuum, this is an outstanding signing for the Dodgers. Had Andruw Jones had a season closer to his 2006 or 2005 performances, he would have been in line for a five- or six-year deal in the $100 million range.

    Jones is still one of the best defensive center fielders in the game, and up until 2007 -- when he allegedly played with a hyper-extended elbow -- was good for an OBP near .350 and 30-40 homers every year. He's also about to turn 31, so he's still in or close to his prime as a hitter. And the Dodgers get the advantage of two of his peak or near-peak years without having to sign him into his mid- or late 30s.

    The Dodgers, however, do not play in a vacuum. On the one hand, this could just be an acknowledgement that the Juan Pierre contract was one of the worst of our time, so the Dodgers are treating it as a sunk deal, which they should do. (This would make them the second team to do this with a bad center fielder signing from last winter, on the heels of the Angels signing Torii Hunter two weeks ago after getting Gary Matthews Jr. the year before.)

    On the other hand, this could mean the Dodgers intend to deal either Matt Kemp or Andre Ethier in a deal for one of the top starting pitchers on the market, such as Erik Bedard. Trading either of those guys would hurt the Dodgers' offense -- any scheme that puts Pierre in an everyday role hurts their offense almost as much as it hurts my eyes -- but trading Kemp for anything less than a Bedard or a Johan Santana will come back to haunt the Dodgers for years.

    Or, should they keep Kemp but send him to Triple-A or relegate him to part-time duty, they'll retard his development, since Kemp is still raw as a baseball player and needs reps at the big-league level to continue to work in areas like pitch recognition and reading flyballs off the bat. They could make out better if they trade Ethier, who is just a fringe-average corner outfielder and unlikely to produce at a higher level than this, but that still hurts their club by giving Pierre 600 at-bats that should go to someone who can hit.
    Last edited by ASUcruz; December 6th, 2007 at 10:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderPressure View Post
    Brewers or White Sox are a possible trade partner for Pierre. Maybe the Indians, too.
    Don't really see the Brewers. They seem to have their own speedy OF in Tony Gwynn Jr. And he's a hellva lot cheaper and better in the field. Plus Weeks might end up in CF or even Braun if their daring.

    White Sox maybe, but again they have their own cheap speedy CF in Jerry Owens. Plus the addition Quentin fills in a corner OF spot.

    Don't see the Indians either. All in all it'll be a miracle if Ned finds a taker for Pierre. Let's just hope it happens.

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    i like the signing, its only 2 years so thats good. Also im with everyone here do WHATEVER it takes to get pierre off this team. Trade him to texas for a 6 pack of Lone Star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Duke View Post
    I agree on the first part, but I don't think adding Rowand would have made us any better than signing Pierre did. You'd still be putting all our offensive eggs in a soon-to-retire Kent, and the kids.
    And again how much money would it have saved? Rowand is seeking a big deal for longer years. It wouldn't have made sense to lock up another mediocre OF for 5 years.

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    Call Ned right now, Kenny. Make an offer to get Pierre.


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