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    MLB network saying the Dodgers are going after Adrian Gonzalez AND Bell. But it is from Rosenfail.
    Ronsefail is now the Eklund of baseball. **** him
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    Looks like it's going to be a quiet trade deadline for the Dodgers

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    Loney, Kemp, Martin, Ethier, Billingsley, Kershaw & Broxton.

    Don't disrupt the chemistry.


    The Gonzalez talk was BS. Colletti already stated he wasn't trading anyone from his starting lineup and Gonzalez would've started with Loney. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliché Guevara View Post

    The Gonzalez talk was BS. Colletti already stated he wasn't trading anyone from his starting lineup and Gonzalez would've started with Loney. No thanks.
    Uh...Gonzalez >>>> Loney. I do that in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBrown33 View Post
    Uh...Gonzalez >>>> Loney. I do that in a heartbeat.
    True but it goes back to the Halladay deal.

    Halladay >>> Billingsley

    Gonzalez >>> Loney


    Too bad neither deal would be achieved straight-up. But Bills & Loney are big pieces of the core & I wouldn't support trading them + gutting the farm system just to improve a postion of relative strength (1B & #1 starter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliché Guevara View Post
    True but it goes back to the Halladay deal.

    Halladay >>> Billingsley

    Gonzalez >>> Loney


    Too bad neither deal would be achieved straight-up. But Bills & Loney are big pieces of the core & I wouldn't support trading them + gutting the farm system just to improve a postion of relative strength (1B & #1 starter).
    Yeah, except Gonzalez is only 2 years older than Loney, and is a much better upgrade at 1B than Halladay over Billingsley (who is an all star this year...Loney is a far cry from all star caliber right now).

    Basically, Loney at 1B is no position of strength. He's 11th of 13 amongst 1B in OPS, 14th in VORP. Basically, right now, he's in the bottom half of NL first basemen, and that's a generous categorization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbrown33 View Post
    uh...gonzalez >>>> loney. I do that in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbrown33 View Post
    yeah, except gonzalez is only 2 years older than loney, and is a much better upgrade at 1b than halladay over billingsley (who is an all star this year...loney is a far cry from all star caliber right now).

    Basically, loney at 1b is no position of strength. He's 11th of 13 amongst 1b in ops, 14th in vorp. Basically, right now, he's in the bottom half of nl first basemen, and that's a generous categorization.
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    Potential pitchers available during the waiver period:

    Aaron Harang
    Bronson Arroyo
    Jon Garland
    Doug Davis
    Gil Meche
    Vincente Padilla


    Harang would be my first choice, Meche and Arroyo secondary targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBrown33 View Post
    Yeah, except Gonzalez is only 2 years older than Loney, and is a much better upgrade at 1B than Halladay over Billingsley (who is an all star this year...Loney is a far cry from all star caliber right now).

    Basically, Loney at 1B is no position of strength. He's 11th of 13 amongst 1B in OPS, 14th in VORP. Basically, right now, he's in the bottom half of NL first basemen, and that's a generous categorization.
    I'm not going to argue whether Gonzalez is better than Loney. That's indisputable. But for Gonzalez to be traded to a division rival would cost a lot more than Loney. And I wouldn't have supported the kind of overpayment that would taken. Even if it was validated by a World Series appearance. Not if it meant mortgaging the next x number of years.


    & I'm still not worried about Loney.

    Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | Loney's grand slam gives the Dodgers the lead - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia


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    I like the what Colleti did this year but I never thought starting pitching was an issue. Nice to have a good lefty out of the pen, let's just hope Torre doesn't proctorize him. Sherrill is really going to be needed when Troncoso hits the DL in a few weeks.

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