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    BA Chat Wrap

    Joe (Albany): Jim Who is the better prospect today- Ivan DeJesus Jr. or Chin Lung Hu?

    SportsNation John Manuel: King of apples and oranges, but I'll take the guy with the better bat, DeJesus. There have been Q's about Hu's bat for several years and he reinforced them in his big league promotion; I still like him but like DeJesus better.
    Mike (Albany, NY): Hi John, thanks for taking my call, what do Andrew Lambo and James McDonald project out to be in the big leagues for the Dodgers? Their ETA?

    SportsNation John Manuel: Ha, nice . . . little lightning round. I am on the Lambo bandwagon, I got sold a bad bill of goods on him when he was an amateur, he just flat hits. He's gonna move quickly and he's gonna hit. I'm a bit less excited about McDonald just because it sounds like the fastball is fringe-average or average; I know Ben Badler here at BA is a believer, and athleticism plus a feel for pitching is a good combination as well. McDonald could be ready in '09 if needed; Lambo will need to wait until 2010 I'd guess.

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    Here's some interesting news

    The Dodgers are expected to annonce today that they have signed two-year player-development agreements with two new minor-league affiliates. At the Triple-A level, the club is switching its affiliation from Las Vegas, where it has been for the past eight seasons, back to Albuquerque, N.M., where it was continuously from 1972-2000. At the Double-A level, the Dodgers are moving from Jacksonville, Fla,, to another unnamed Southern League market, believed to be Chattanooga, Tenn., which has been affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds for the past 21 seasons. Most of the Dodgers' other minor-league affiliations -- high Single-A Inland Empire (San Bernardino) of the California League, low Single-A Great Lakes (Midland, Mich.) of the Midwest League and Rookie-level Odgen, Utah, of the Pioneer League -- are expected to stay the same. Because they are moving their spring-training operations from Vero Beach, Fla., to Glendale, Ariz., the Dodgers' other Rookie-level affiliate will be moved from the Gulf Coast League to the Arizona League
    Affiliations to be announced today - Inside the Dodgers

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    Here's Tony's story.

    Dodgers change minor-league affiliates - LA Daily News

    PITTSBURGH - The Dodgers are expected to announce today that they are moving their Triple-A and Double-A affiliations to Albuquerque, N.M., and Chattanooga, Tenn., respectively, agreeing to two-year player-development contracts with each club.

    The agreement with Albuquerque represents a reunion between the Dodgers and their top minor-league affiliate from 1972-2000. The Dodgers had been affiliated with Las Vegas, also of the Pacific Coast League, since 2001, but a cramped, outdated facility there prompted the organization to look elsewhere.

    Albuquerque has been affiliated for the past few seasons with the Florida Marlins, who are expected to move their affiliantion to New Orleans for geographical reasons.

    The Chattanooga Lookouts of the Southern League have been affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds for the past 21 years. By switching their affiliation from Jacksonville, Fla., which signed a two-year agreement with the Marlins on Wednesday, the Dodgers will bring their Double-A club a few hundred miles closer, but not nearly as close as they had hoped.

    There are no Double-A markets west of Midland, Texas, of the Texas League. It is believed that the Dodgers were seeking an affiliation in that league but were unable to find one.

    Dodgers officials are prohibited by Major League Baseball from discussing minor-league affiliation agreements until those agreements are finalized and announced.

    With the exception of their Gulf Coast League club, which will be moved to the Arizona League as part of the Dodgers' spring-training relocation from Vero Beach, Fla., to Glendale, Ariz., all other Dodgers' affiliates will remain in place. They include Inland Empire, a San Bernardino-based club in the high Single-A California League; Great Lakes of Midland, Mich., in the low Single-A Midwest League; and Ogden, Utah, of the Rookie-level Pioneer League.

    All of the Dodgers' new and existing player-development contracts will run through 2010.

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    Baseball America does a top 10 list for every league in the minors. A couple of our guys made the Pioneer League top 10.
    4. Devaris Gordon
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    Ogden Raptors (Dodgers)
    B-T: R-R Ht.: 5-11 Wt.: 150 Age: 20
    Drafted: Dodgers '08 (4)

    Gordon failed to qualify academically at Seminole (Fla.) Community College and couldn't play this spring, but the Dodgers drafted him in the fourth round anyway. Once he stepped onto the field in the Pioneer League, it was apparent why.

    The son of Phillies righthander Tom Gordon, Gordon has outstanding athleticism and 65 speed on the 20-80 scouting scale. He's extremely skinny with wide shoulders, so he has plenty of room to add strength to his wiry frame. Despite his slender build, he swings the bat with surprising authority and drives balls to the gaps.

    With excellent range and good first-step quickness, Gordon has the tools to stick at shortstop. Some of the rust from not getting live game action this spring showed, as he made 28 errors in 60 games, but the miscues should be correctable once he learns to play more under control.
    10. Kyle Russell
    OF
    Ogden Raptors (Dodgers)
    B-T: L-L Ht.: 6-5 Wt.: 190 Age: 22
    Drafted: Dodgers '08 (3)

    Russell led NCAA Division I with 28 homers as a draft-eligible sophomore in 2007, then turned down a reported $800,000 offer from the Cardinals as a fourth-rounder. He went one round higher this June, though he had to settle for $410,000.

    Russell has long arms but still gets the bat head through the zone well and gets good leverage in his swing, which helps him generate tremendous power. However, his swing and pull-oriented approach lead scouts to question how much he'll hit with wood bats. With Ogden, he continued his track record of hitting homers (11) and striking out with great frequency (82 times in 219 at-bats). A good athlete, he has a strong arm and fits best in right field.
    11. Pedro Baez
    3B
    Ogden Raptors (Dodgers)
    B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-2 Wt.: 195 Age: 20
    Signed: Dominican Republic '07

    The Dodgers pushed Baez to low Class A to start the season, but after he hit .178/.244/.259, they sent him down to Ogden to regroup. While he continued to struggle with breaking balls and plate discipline, he was one of the more dangerous power hitters in the league.

    \\"I've seen him hit some balls 500 feet,\\" Diaz said. \\"He's got cartoon-shot power.\\"

    Baez has a strong, durable frame with a diverse set of above-average tools. He has plus power that could grade out even higher in the future, but his approach doesn't always allow his pop to translate in game situations. At times he lacks rhythm at the plate, which causes him to start chasing pitches.

    At third base, Baez shows soft hands and a plus arm. His feet get tangled up at times, which leads to some erratic throws, but he generally moves well around the bag. He's a below-average runner.
    19. Tony Delmonico
    2B Ogden Raptors (Dodgers)
    B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-0 Wt.: 194 Age: 21
    Drafted: Dodgers '08 (6)

    The son of former Tennessee head coach Rod Delmonico, Tony Delmonico showed an aggressive approach, swung the bat well and used the whole field in his pro debut. Though he hit 11 homers while playing his home games in the Pioneer League's coziest ballpark (Ogden's Lindquist Field), he doesn't project to have huge power.

    Defense has been a challenge for Delmonico, whose range and hands are both limited. A shortstop in college, he moved to second base with the Raptors but still looked rough there. He might end up moving to third base or an outfield corner, and his bat doesn't profile well at those positions.

    The buzz around the league was that Delmonico might move behind the plate, which wouldn't be something new for a Dodgers organization that has converted Russell Martin and Carlos Santana, among others, to catcher. It's a switch that others have considered in the past, considering Delmonico's arm strength and athleticism.

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    And here's some stuff from the follow up BA chat

    Q: ScottAz from Phx, AZ asks:
    I haven't heard much about Flash Gordon's kid. Who does he most closely resemble in the Bigs?
    A:

    Ben Badler: Understandable that you haven't heard much, given that he didn't play this spring because he couldn't qualify academically for his junior college. Give a lot of credit to the Dodgers for picking up Gordon in the 4th round though. There were some scouts who raised an eyebrow when LA picked him that high, especially since there were scouts in that area who didn't see him even in workouts this year. But he's an outstanding athleticism and speed, so he has the tools to be a good shortstop once he gets himself more under control. Who does he closely resemble? No one, not right now. He weighs 150, maybe 155 pounds. He's just weak, and I don't mean that in a bad way, because he's just going to fill out his frame naturally and get stronger. If they re-did the draft today, I don't think he'd get past the third round again.
    Q: Mike Marinaro from Tampa, FL asks:
    How does the power of Kyle Russell or Pedro Baez stack up against last year's Pioneer League slugger prospect of Mike Moustakas?
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    Ben Badler: It compares favorably, if we're talking just about raw power. But Moustakas' power plays better in games and is a way better prospect. I don't mind if you're a power hitter and you strike out a lot, but Russell's extreme propensity for the strikeout is scary. Take a look at the players in the big leagues right now who are high strikeout guys... you'll see that even they didn't whiff that much in the minors.

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    Here is a nice little scouting report on DeJesus from BA

    Dodgers shortstop/second baseman Ivan DeJesus finished the season on a 23-game hitting streak, putting the cap on a stellar season for Double-A Jacksonville. DeJesus, 21, came into the season as a light-hitting middle infielder with a good feel for the strike zone and some ability in the field. This season, DeJesus was one of the Southern League's best players, as he hit .324/.419/.423 in 128 games with 76 walks, 81 strikeouts and seven home runs.

    Though DeJesus' power projects as fringe-average at best, his ability to draw walks and put the ball in play provide value at an up-the-middle position. At 5-foot-11, 182 pounds, the Puerto Rico native may not stand out physically, but he has gotten the attention of scouts who have noticed improvement in his hitting from last season to this year, as he has shortened his swing and shown a knack for making in-game adjustments.

    In the field, the Dodgers have rotated DeJesus between shortstop and second base. While his feet and hands work well and his instincts help his tools play up, De Jesus is only a fringe-average runner, which limits his range, and 17 of his 26 errors this season were throwing errors, which a move to second base could help minimize.

    One American League scout felt comfortable with DeJesus at either middle infield position, and liked that the Dodgers were letting him get a taste of both positions.

    \"He was their best prospect, their best player by far,\" said the scout. \"He centers the ball with the bat. He's not a real big physical kid, but he's got some bat speed.

    \"He hit only about six or eight home runs all year, but he looked like he knew what to do when he got a pitch that he could pull. He's gonna have home run power just to his pull side, like Dustin Pedroia. He got a couple of average fastballs in the middle of the plate, and he didn't foul them off or swing and miss, he drove them pretty deep. He's not gonna be a 20-25 home run middle infielder, but he looks like he knows what to do with it, which is impressive for a young kid.

    \"He played shortstop fine. I think it's good for young kids to play more than one position because a lot of times when they come up to the big leagues, they play shortstop their whole life or center field their whole life—you've got to be able to make those changes. He played well at shortstop and at second base. I don't know that he's gonna be a superstar, but he looks to me like he could be a very solid major league middle infielder.\"

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    More prospect stuff, this time from the Midwest League

    7. Andrew Lambo
    OF
    Great Lakes (Dodgers)
    B-T: L-L Ht.: 6-3 Wt.: 190 Age: 20 Drafted: Dodgers '07 (4)

    With a smooth swing and advanced approach, Lambo was born to hit. He batted .343 in his pro debut last year, and provided the lone threat in a woeful Great Lakes lineup this summer and posted a .389 average in a short August stint as the Double-A Southern League's youngest player (20). He made consistent hard contact, hung in well against lefthanders and continued to develop his power, which should produce at least 20 homers per year in the majors.

    \"If you pitched him tough, he'd still find a way to get his one knock,\" Lansing manager Clayton McCullough said. \"On the days when you made mistakes, he'd get two or three.\"

    More of a first baseman in high school, Lambo has made a fine transition to left field. His speed is below average, but he has good instincts, goes back on balls well and owns a solid arm.

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    From the MWL chat


    Q: Jonathan from Iowa City asks:
    Where do you think Andrew Lambo will start next season? He certainly looked good in the AA playoffs. Also, is his ultimate position in the OF or at 1b? Thanks
    A:

    Jim Callis: I'll try to get to a few more questions before I have to run . . . Lambo will be a LF and should start next year in Double-A.

    Q: Jared from CA asks:
    What did scouts think of Loons (Dodgers) RHP Justin Miller?
    A:

    Jim Callis: They loved his sinker. He wasn't close to the Top 20, but he's a legit prospect who's only been pitching full-time for about a year.

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    BaseballAmerica.com: Majors: Organization Reports: Los Angeles Dodgers: Dodgers Final Report

    BEST PLAYER: In a full season at Double-A Jacksonville, shortstop Ivan DeJesus Jr. led the Southern League with a .419 on-base percentage, mostly the result of his compiling the second-most walks (76) in the circuit while striking out only 81 times.

    The 21-year-old finished the season with a 23-game hitting streak, boosting his season average to .324, but he likely won't get a chance to continue that streak with Jacksonville. In fact, after playing in the Arizona Fall League, DeJesus might go to spring training with a shot at cracking the Dodgers' everyday lineup, depending on whether the club re-signs Rafael Furcal or some other veteran.

    BEST PITCHER: After righthander James McDonald was promoted to Triple-A Las Vegas for the first time in early August—he went 2-1, 3.63 there—he made his major league debut in a September callup.

    McDonald went from an 11th-round draft pick to one of the organization's top pitching prospects by keeping his walk total microscopic. This year, he walked a total of 53 batters in 141 innings at Jacksonville and Las Vegas while striking out a batter an inning.

    KEEP AN EYE ON: Outfielder Andrew Lambo was promoted all the way to Jacksonville from low Class A Great Lakes with a week left in the season just to gauge where he was developmentally. Last year's fourth-round pick responded by hitting safely in all eight of his games with the Suns. Lambo, 20, hit .288/.346/.462 with 15 home runs in 472 at-bats at Great Lakes and .389/.421/.750 in 36 at-bats at Jacksonville. He also will play in the AFL.

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    I feel reassured.

    It might also be helping that I'm watching Kershaw with 3 K's in 2 scoreless innings so far.

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