Thread: Official Dodgers May Thread...

All right, all right, all right. He's had a good month. We've won 8 of 9. It's Cinco de Mayo. Can we start getting drunk yet?

Originally Posted by TBrown33

Juan Pierre is BAD at getting on base. On base percentage hovering around .330 in the previous 3 seasons is BAD. Especially for a guy who hits singles.

Stolen bases...Pierre gets thrown out about 25% percent of the time. That is about "breaking even" in terms of actually helping your team. Giving away outs: BAD THING.

Okay, so in the previous 3 seasons Pierre is at .330 OBP, while Loney in his first 3 seasons is at .363. What is that, bad as well ? What about Kemp at .345? Does he suck too ? Those are all pretty close to each other.

Why aren't you calling out Loney on his 2 career stolen bases? I've seen him dishing his fair share of outs to the opposing team while trying to steal.

People around here seem to give everybody but Pierre a free ride.

Originally Posted by Claw21

Because LaRoche hasn't done anything in the majors that's why. You are just so convinced that because DeWitt had bad numbers in the minors that he shouldn't be playing in the majors.

Pretty much anyone that knows anything about baseball knows that DeWitt should be in the minors. And that's not to say you don't but it's logic. He has done very well in exceeding the expectations people inside the organization had of him. But in an ideal world, you'd want a healthy LaRoche at third with a legimate shot at taking the spot that's been his to take for the past 2 seasons and you'd have DeWitt down getting as many ABs as possible for LV until his call-up in September. This would give LaRoche the opportunity to take the spot he's been either unable to hold or was unavailable to begin with.

DeWitt's talented, don't get me wrong. He's done more than I expected...but he's young, he's raw and one month of limited action is not any kind of barometer to start changing your expectations of him. I can't wait to see what Pierre's statline looks in September. Still, DeWitt's impressed me with .421 avg, .542 obp with RISP. For a young kid, that's a pretty damn good line especially because he's done most of his hitting down the lineup.

But I wouldn't be disapointed when Nomar and LaRoche are back up.

Originally Posted by Joe Hoya

Are you honestly saying that you can't know baseball without playing in college? That's absurd.

Of course it's not. Only people who have played baseball at a high level are allowed to write and comment on it. The rest of us fantasy geeks don't know what we're talking about. I mean why make judgments on stats when you can get by on good old fashioned gut feeling about a player, whether or not he has dirt on his jersey, and if he's a gamer or not.

Originally Posted by Azagthoth

Okay, so in the previous 3 seasons Pierre is at .330 OBP, while Loney in his first 3 seasons is at .363. What is that, bad as well ? What about Kemp at .345? Does he suck too ? Those are all pretty close to each other.

Well, first off .363 and .345 are quite higher than .330. And they have power, and Pierre doesn't.

Originally Posted by Azagthoth

Why aren't you calling out Loney on his 2 career stolen bases? I've seen him dishing his fair share of outs to the opposing team while trying to steal.

First off, stolen bases aren't nearly as important as getting on base and hitting for power.

Secondly, Loney's been thrown out four times in two years.

Originally Posted by Azagthoth

People around here seem to give everybody but Pierre a free ride.

Quite false. See also: third base; Jones, Andruw.

Originally Posted by Joe Hoya

Well, first off .363 and .345 are quite higher than .330. And they have power, and Pierre doesn't.


First off, stolen bases aren't nearly as important as getting on base and hitting for power.

Secondly, Loney's been thrown out four times in two years.


Quite false. See also: third base; Jones, Andruw.

Also, in Kemp's largest season sample (2007), he OBP'd .373 and OPS'd at .894.

Loney OBP'd at .381 and OPS'd at .919 last year. Awesome.

I don't think it's entirely fair to include Kemp's first year up, when he was so raw that he still couldn't hit a major league breaking ball.

Also, both players are 23 and haven't played a full season of ML baseball yet (obviously).

Also, both players make about 83 times less money than Pierre.

...are we seriously comparing Pierre with Kemp and Loney? This is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by ASUcruz

Of course it's not. Only people who have played baseball at a high level are allowed to write and comment on it. The rest of us fantasy geeks don't know what we're talking about. I mean why make judgments on stats when you can get by on good old fashioned gut feeling about a player, whether or not he has dirt on his jersey, and if he's a gamer or not.

How about good old fashioned hard work during the off-season. How about realizing what your weaknesses are and working on them to make yourself a better player. How about taking advantage of an opportunity for some playing time and running with it.

Larry Bowa and Joe Torre obviously do.

I can just see it now, some people on this board actually wanting DeWitt to fail so they can say "told you so."

Originally Posted by The Natural

Pretty much anyone that knows anything about baseball knows that DeWitt should be in the minors.

I don't know if it is fair to say he "belongs" in the majors. DeWitt has played at a major league level. But I just think it would be nice to see LaRoche given the same opportunity DeWitt has had.

Originally Posted by ASUcruz

I don't know if it is fair to say he "belongs" in the majors. DeWitt has played at a major league level. But I just think it would be nice to see LaRoche given the same opportunity DeWitt has had.

Not that he belongs in the minors but I think the majority believes he would benefit more from being there than being here seeing limited action knowing LaRoche and Nomar would see playing time more than DeWitt.