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    The Padres will win the NL WEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck with the divorce there Azul fans.

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    "Time to toughen up."
    "Time to work harder."

    Really insightful analysis there. Heyman is a dolt, though he's right about needing a front-line starter and looking for an upgrade at 1B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoya View Post
    "Time to toughen up."
    "Time to work harder."

    Really insightful analysis there. Heyman is a dolt, though he's right about needing a front-line starter and looking for an upgrade at 1B.
    I'm ok with Loney at 1B. 90 RBI and he plays outstanding defense. I think his ability to pick the ball at first is way underrated, he's as good as they come in that regard. Loney probably saved at least 10 errors on throws in the dirt from Furcal this past season. If there's a deal out there that would involve him I'd be Ok with that, but I think there are far more pressing needs than upgrading 1B.

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    Kiss 'Em Goodbye: Los Angeles Dodgers - Buster Olney - ESPN

    Interesting idea, though I'd guess Florida would want young (pre-arbitration) talent in return which LA is sort of lacking these days.

    Trades: Halladay may be the biggest target on the trade market, as he's all but a lame duck in Toronto, but what about Josh Johnson of Florida? As ESPN.com's Jayson Stark told us, Johnson wants a multiyear deal from a team that gives long-term deals to pitchers about as often as it sells out its home park. Marlins 2B Dan Uggla is arbitration-eligible and almost certainly will be available in a deal, as well -- or how about a package?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frolov24 View Post
    I'm ok with Loney at 1B. 90 RBI and he plays outstanding defense. I think his ability to pick the ball at first is way underrated, he's as good as they come in that regard. Loney probably saved at least 10 errors on throws in the dirt from Furcal this past season. If there's a deal out there that would involve him I'd be Ok with that, but I think there are far more pressing needs than upgrading 1B.
    90 RBI isn't all that impressive when you bat in the middle of the lineup with the highest OBP in the National League and have 650+ plate appearances.

    I agree with you on his defense. If we could grab a guy like Uggla at 2B, then the need to get power from the 1B spot would be lessened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoya View Post
    90 RBI isn't all that impressive when you bat in the middle of the lineup with the highest OBP in the National League and have 650+ plate appearances.

    I agree with you on his defense. If we could grab a guy like Uggla at 2B, then the need to get power from the 1B spot would be lessened.
    Agree, a power bat at 2B would help. The Dodgers do have the advantage of all 3 starting outfielders being legit power bats, with Ethier and Kemp on the upswing in that department.

    I think Loney is solid at 1B. He's a career .324 hitter with runners in scoring position, almost 30 points above his overall career average. By comparison, Kemp and Ethier both are around .285 with RISP. Loney is just 25, plays great D, is clutch, and I think we'll see the power increase in the coming years. Taking Hamels deep twice in a series was pretty impressive. And I think it's really nice to have a 1B who is that steady defensively.

    I think the decline is power by Furcal and Martin this season made things seem even worse from an overall lineup perspective. Sure, if Adrian Gonzalez or Derrick Lee is available, you definitely consider a deal. But I think the efforts should start at acquiring a frontline starting pitcher and/or a 2B before looking to upgrade 1B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frolov24 View Post
    I think Loney is solid at 1B. He's a career .324 hitter with runners in scoring position, almost 30 points above his overall career average. By comparison, Kemp and Ethier both are around .285 with RISP. Loney is just 25, plays great D, is clutch, and I think we'll see the power increase in the coming years. Taking Hamels deep twice in a series was pretty impressive. And I think it's really nice to have a 1B who is that steady defensively.
    Do you actually think his RISP BA is indicative of anything but a smaller sample size that will regress to the mean over a longer haul? I find these "he's clutch" or "he's not clutch" to be usually dubious arguments--especially the RISP BA stat, considering all situations with RISP are not created equal and plenty of "clutch" situations happen without RISP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBarlow View Post
    The Padres will win the NL WEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck with the divorce there Azul fans.
    Frank McCourt only having a 50% or less ownership is still richer than the Padres.

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    [QUOTE=UnderPressure;1604444]Frank McCourt only having a 50% or less ownership is still richer than the Padres.[/QUOTE

    Even having a half bottle of scotch is richer than anything crappy down south.

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